Suzeonline why is it so important to you to win the argument about which gender is the more violent? You keep saying that it is futile to try and convince the men on this forum and you have said that you are no longer going to participate in the argument but you keep coming back like you are addicted to trying to prove that men are worse than women in this regard.

Sure, men argue with you as they try and prove that you are wrong but why do you let yourself become embroiled in such arguments? Why is it so important to you to prove this point?

Ultimately it does not matter which gender is the more violent – the only thing that matters is that people remain safe but you seem to have no interest at all doing what is necessary to help anyone be safe. Why are you not doing everything in your power to discourage women from entering into such dangerous circumstances? Where is the practical assistance to help women out of such relationships where they cannot help themselves?

It seems by your behaviour that you do not care about women but only about painting men as villains. What drives you to want to do this so much? What is it that such behaviour is really trying to achieve? Why do you have to do it? If you spent half as much time helping women avoid relationships as you do trying to win such a pointless argument then you would have done something really special for women.

You don't know me at all Phanto, so no point spreading lies about my motives.
As a woman, I am always likely to change my mind, especially when I see lies on this forum.

As I have said before, I have cared for many female DV victims in both hospitals and homes over the years as a nurse. I have seen and heard some truly horrific things that none of you could even imagine.....unless you were involved in DV in some way yourselves.

I will always speak out for people of either sex who have been bashed, burned, slashed, beaten, kicked or shot by other people, especially those bashed in their own homes by people who are supposed to love them. It makes my blood boil.

The vast majority of those I have seen bashed like this have been women, and that is not a statistic, it is personal knowledge after 30 years of nursing.....

@suzonline Firstly, weren't you 'done' here? I guess that's just one more misleading statement by you.

Secondly, considering that your message to me personally and every other battered man out there was the equivalent of "don't dress like a slut and you wont get raped", you have no credibility here - unless you exist under the misconception that making DV apologist (and therefore rape apologist and child abuse apologist), slut-shaming, perpetrator shielding, and utterly chauvinistic statements passes for credibility.

After all, to hell with the fact that the ABS found that a third of all DV victims are male and that 94% of our abusers are female- after all, those facts are nothing but grand heresies to your feminist dogma, aren't they?

Like all feminists, you clearly believe it's our fault we're abused - because either in your mind, we're liars, or "your 'male power' made her do it". Your entire response has done nothing but prove that feminists are no better in their regard and treatment of those of us who are abused men, than radical Islamic clerics with abused women.

Thirdly, that ANROWS source you cited has has been debunked by the One In Three Campaign, through drawing on the actual data by official government bodies like the ABS - caught out in your exact same crime, raising the plight of battered women, by demonising, stigmatising and diswmissing those of us who are battered men out there, as your own comments here have caught you out in.

Fourthly, the "dodgy website you refer to" is actually the work of over 100 academics, at least 49 of them with PhDs and experts in their fields, and is nothing more that a web portal to every single article from their peer reviewed journal, hosted on Intagenta Connect (http://www.ingentaconnect.com/) which describes itself as "ingentaconnect from Publishing Technology is the world's largest resource for scholarly publications ". Calling anything any part of the P.A.S.K. as "dodgy" is nothing more than character-suicide on your part.

Stop pretending you have any credibility left here the toothpaste is out of the tube concerning your bigotry.

ur041, all those comments you think I made about you and other male DV victims, I couldn't actually find them in my posts. Were you dreaming?

I don't think you were ever a victim of DV.
I think you are just an angry man trying to blame women for all your problems, like so many others.
You don't want to think of all victims of family violence at all, just the male victims.

It's time for you to move on with your life.

@suzonline " I will always speak out for people of either sex who have been bashed, burned, slashed, beaten, kicked or shot by other people, especially those bashed in their own homes by people who are supposed to love them. It makes my blood boil."

Yet you previously said:

" At the end of the day, men can physically block violence against them a lot easier than most women, so don't tell me there are lots of scared men out there because no one will ever believe that."

In other words: "battered men should just 'man up and take it' and they're not 'real men' if they can't" - the equivalent of 'caring' for a rape victim by saying to them "if you weren't dressed like such a slut, then you wouldn't have been raped".

The truth, which the sum of your posts have betrayed, is that you only care about the abused when they are female and abused by a male. When it's a male victim of a female abuser, you clearly hold us in nothing but condescension, callousness and contempt - viewing us as nothing but liars and scum beneath your feet and entirely to blame for being abused because we "didn't just 'man up' and take it". You clearly oppose a gender-neutral, inclusive, social narrative on abuse.

Furthermore your attitudes towards abused men and boys are best summed up by the following: "To abuse against men, feminism says 'who cares?' After all it's almost all just 'men doing it to each other' and in the 5-10 cases of a woman abusing a man worldwide, it must have been self-defence or he must have provoked it: you go girl!"

You've even just gone on record implying I'm lying about being a survivor of DV and child abuse, when people such as my mother would say otherwise, and of using the "misogynist" shaming tactic - effectively implying I'm a "woman hating homosexual" while shaming me with "if you'd manned up, you wouldn't have been abused".

Congratulations on demonstrating that feminism is the new "male chauvinism".

In a NSW AG's report it say that "In 2010, NSW Police recorded 126,325 domestic and family violence incidents involving
92,215 victims and 81,772 perpetrators. " Once again the word "alleged" is missing. One can only assume that the figures are based on the domestic incidents the police attended.

http://tinyurl.com/mpgc7x4

The government document says:

"According to Police statistics, Aboriginal women are six times more likely to suffer domestic and family violence than non-Aboriginal women."

Have a look at the graph taken from the report:

http://tinypic.com/r/fuzxv/8

In terms of incidents per 100,000 population you'll see a huge disparity between Walgett in NSW and other place included in the graph. Have you ever seen a domestic violence ad with Aborigines in it? Of course not because this whole issue has been greatly politicized.