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Saving democracy from the extremists : Comments

By Junaid Cheema, published 25/2/2015

The publication had a very un-Australian affect on the readers - comments flooded the paper's social media site vilifying Muslims, promoting hate and creating divisions amongst Australians.

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Loudmouth,

Finally you have answered what you thought was my question – your post of 2 March 5:25 pm.

I will now entertain your question.

Remember, I wanted your assurance that you will answer my question when I raise one. I see a change in your position, which can help this exchange.

On your question.

<<are ISIS terrorists acting in accordance with the Koran, or not ?>>

ISIS are terrorists and NO, they are NOT AT ALL acting in accordance with Quran.

I know they claim to be acting according to the teachings of Islam. But they are a mislead bunch who are misleading many.

Many others have made similar FALSE claims, as we know.

The man in recent history who unleashed a war on millions of civilians had said “God said to me George…”. I don’t think God said to him what he thought was said to him.

I don’t blame Christianity for his crimes, just as you cannot blame Islam for the crimes of ISIS.

Now my first question to you:

Has the emergence of ISIS anything to do with US invasion of Iraq and its actions that followed there?

Remember, our exchange can continue as long we remain rational and avoid mudslinging.

You may have differences with Islam and religion in general, being an Atheist. I respect your right for choosing your outlook just as I have the right to choose mine.

I may differ with your view of life, but I must NOT ridicule it. By the way, I have seen wonderful people among Atheists and Agnostics. I can say the same about Christians and Jews and people from other belief systems.
Posted by NC, Monday, 2 March 2015 8:04:28 PM
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NC,

No. You do NOT dictate to me.

So: 'ISIS are terrorists and NO, they are NOT AT ALL acting in accordance with Quran.'

Thank you. That's all I wanted to know.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 2 March 2015 8:39:40 PM
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NC, please enumerate the "crimes" of George Bush Junior, or senior, prior to 9/11.
Posted by Luciferase, Monday, 2 March 2015 9:34:26 PM
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NC: Quran does authorise Muslims to resist force by force and there can’t be anything wrong with it.

Yes but if the force comes from moslems, in the form of unreasonable demands, that are against the Local Populations Culture. Those demands being "rejected" by the Local Population is seen as "force" being used against moslems. (moslems can't get their own way.) You are saying that that gives moslems the right to use force on that Local Population. That's what's wrong with it. Which is what is happening all over the Western World where moslems have invaded. (Falsely sought Asylum)

NC: JIZYA is a tax on non-Muslims, just as the tax on Muslims that their religion prescribes. Now some citizens should not pay tax because they are non-Muslims? You can’t be serious!

Why should non-moslems pay the Jizya to moslems? A lot of other Religions pay a Tithe (or Jizya) to their own Religion so paying a Jizya to moslems should "not" be nessessary. But, moslems still force them pay it to moslems, Why?

NC: The problem with you and your associates is that you distort facts.

No we don't that's the problem you can't accept.

NC: The man in recent history who unleashed a war on millions of civilians had said “God said to me George…”. I don’t think God said to him what he thought was said to him.

The West has the same problem with Mohammed, "The man in ancient history who unleashed a war on millions of civilians had said “Allah said to me, Mohammed…”. I don’t think Allah said to him what he thought was said to him. In fact Mohammed was running a Scam on a Grand scale & that Scam has been running ever since.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 2 March 2015 9:39:42 PM
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Cont.

NC: ISIS are terrorists and NO, they are NOT AT ALL acting in accordance with Quran.

Arrr.... sneeky, Note the "NOT AT ALL" but ALL do think so, even if some moslems don't think so. Mainly Shia, I would say, but the Shia are the ones being made War on in this area aren't they. In other areas the Shia are picking on the Sunni using the same rules only to their advantage.

I would say the West should stay out of the entire situation. Seal the Boarders so no one can escape, Women, kids, infirmed, any one who wants in, let them in, keep the heart wrenching Media out of it, & let there begin a free for all among themselves.

Just what are the other Islamic Countries in the area doing, NOTHING. They are calling on the West to do all the hard work. Then, as you do, blame the West. That way it doesn't cost them anything & they can point the finger at the West later.

moslems are sneeky Hypocrites
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 2 March 2015 9:40:17 PM
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gawd you're a tit.
Posted by Craig Minns, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 2:54:10 AM
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