Got to love the melodramatic heartfelt compassion for those who suffered way before most of us were born and the complete self conceited contempt for our very real complicity in the self same outrages conducted in our name in Iraq and many other places around the world since.

Got to love it

Yebiga,
Yes and the Holocaust narrative is a frequently used talking point in those machinations:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2408405/Assad-joined-Hitler-Hussein-John-Kerry-says-Syrian-president-used-deadly-sarin-nerve-gas-Damascus-attack.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/22/prince-charles-putin-hitler-outrageous-russia
Rhian, for you:
Is There a New Anti-Semitism?
A Conversation with Raul Hilberg
http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_6.1-2/hilberg.htm

Professor Hilberg was an honest man, he declared that it was the responsibility of Holocaust historians to find answers to the questions posed by revisionists and where he was unable to provide answers he admitted as much:
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/Giant/Chapter9.pdf
This is the world's foremost expert on the Holocaust being cross examined under oath in a court of law and true to form he maintains his integrity and answers honestly.

I can recall seeing a mini series documentary (the world at war) on the second world war, and told from the perspective of returned soldiers; theirs and ours.

Among the reveries, was strong assertions that as many as two thirds of allied soldiers fired high?

That is until they saw the death camps and liberated the living skeletons that remained.
Which made the war into a righteous one for many of the allies!

And those reminiscences were accompanied by old news reels, where corpses were piled high or bulldozed into open trenches; and something of a body count, based on transport numbers minus the survivors.

The Germans were nothing if not very efficient with their record keeping, which according to the doco, seems to substantiate a 6 million figure?

Why they were the source of many of the black and white films that were used later as almost irrefutable evidence at Nuremberg; which forever ended the so called Nuremberg defense of, I was only following orders!

And not all the Jews were blameless, but took part in many of the very worst atrocities as camp policemen, according to some survivor recollections?
Many of who would have preferred death as opposed to unspeakable experiences/atrocities/war crimes/human rights violations!

And as others have raised; there were worse atrocities committed elsewhere, just to suit a political end or keep a madman in power!

Nor does the holocaust give modern day Jews carte blanche to act like the Nazi SS, in dealing with the "Palestine problem"!

Two wrongs never have and never ever will make one right!
Rhrosty.

True Yebiga, killing is killing, but isn't it always which side of the fence you are sitting on, the goodies or the baddies, anything to do with America, goodies, anything to do with Russia, baddies, but then in a few decades perhaps Russia will be a goodie just like Japan is now, one remembers when it was a baddie like Germany, My how things can change, keeps us jumping from side to side of the fence.

Jay

I think holocaust denial is linked to the mindset that produced the holocaust. The Nazis took pains to conceal what they were doing; euphemisms like “special treatment” and “final solution” allowed them to conceal its real import even from each other. Holocaust revisionists seek to deny or downplay the extent of the holocaust or to denigrate its victims. To claim that Jews are responsible for the holocaust, and not much happened anyway, is racially-motivated doublethink.

The linked article is interesting, and I agree with most of the points Hilberg makes. As an historical event, the holocaust should be investigated with rigour and respect for evidence that historiography demands. The point that survivors’ accounts cannot tell us what the non-survivors experienced is hardly new, however: it is a major thesis of Auschwitz survivor Primo Levi’s book “The Drowned and the Saved”. Hilberg certainly does not deny that genocide occurred, or claim that Treblinka was not a death camp, like the loopy video you linked to. If modern-day violence and prejudice against Jews is different from the anti-Semitism of the past, that doesn’t make it any less real.

Killarney

I agree that genocide does not occur for no reason, but isn’t it a bit simplistic to trace it entirely to economics or imperialism? Though the Nazis stole property from the Jews and used them as slave labour, the holocaust was expensive in terms of resources, manpower and the logistics of moving millions of people around, which hindered the war effort. Hatred of the “other” has its own dynamics, which Mal’s article seeks to explore.

I agree that hatred of “the other” is increasingly manifest in the West as hatred of Muslims. But I disagree with the kind of relativism or moral equivalence that says that the Jews’ experience in WW2 was no different to the Palestinians today; or that subsequent genocides such as Rwanda diminish the significance of the holocaust.

So rhian you believe the Jewish holocaust is the premier league and Rwanda is second division?