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Black and white flag : Comments

By Junaid Cheema, published 17/12/2014

Our way of life is under attack there is very little doubt about that, but by whom?

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The Camo,

"If I called myself the god of Australia would it make it so? [No]
If I covered myself in the southern cross and sang waltzing matilda while I took hostages does it make me a representative of Australia?[No} Does it make me an Aussie Terrorist?{No} Does it make all Australians kidnappers/murderers?"[No]

but then all Australians do not subscribe to a belief that their religion says that it is OK to murder in the name of their god, whereas Moslems do, not out loud but tacitly by being followers of Muhammad and by believing and proclaiming that the Koran is the immutable word of God.
Monis was a Moslem, he publicly proclaimed that he followed ISIS, what more do you want?

He was a Moslem terrorist.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 19 December 2014 9:00:26 PM
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Posted by The Camo, Friday, 19 December 2014 9:07:56 PM
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Camo, you can ignore the facts and pretend all you like that Islam had nothing to do with it, but it just means you're wrong, simple as that. Just because you don't like reality, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's you who's an abject fcking retard for trying to pretend that reality doesn't exist. The fact that the guy was a sociopath doesn't mean Islam was not involved - so was Mohammed in case you haven't noticed.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Friday, 19 December 2014 9:34:33 PM
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"The fact that the guy was a sociopath doesn't mean Islam was not involved"

Yes. It actually does. That is the entire point.
Posted by The Camo, Friday, 19 December 2014 9:51:58 PM
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Camo,

He acted in the name of Islam, whether Muslims like it or not: that was his rationale, his be-all and end-all. Yes, he was filth, yes he was a psychopath, anc yes he was using terror and claiming to act in the name of Islam.

As a kaffir, I can't say whether or not he actually WAS acting in the spirit of Islam, whether he had complete sanction to murder from the Koran - Muslims may know if this was so, if they know their Koran.

As for your earlier spew about Australians, I can't make out what you are getting at: who is saying they are the god of Australia ? Of course if you wrapped yourself in the flag, it doesn't make you representative of Australia. Neither did Moson 'represent' Islam when he ordered an Islamic flag to be put up in the window - but he certainly wished it to be known that he was Muslim, and that he supported IS, didn't he ? Otherwise, why did he bother ?

What he did has no bearing on other Muslims, unless they come out and support his vile actions. What he did, does not suggest that all Muslims are terrorists, or kidnappers or murderers, only those who carry out such acts, whether here or in Syria or Iraq. If so, then yes, they are vile people. If they were honest enough to come out in support of IS, then yes, they are vile people, who would support the machine-gunning and beheading of children, the rape and enslaving of women. How much worse do those mongrels have to get ? Set up giant mincing machines ? Gas ovens ? T

Totally uncivilized animals.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 19 December 2014 10:35:23 PM
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I like the article and what I say next is not a critique -The same way the Muslim community as a whole does not want to be judged by their extremist counterparts, I would ask that the western community as a whole particularly in Australia is not judged by the bigots.
It seems troubling that the author feels like they are being forced to pick sides (even though they said they were not going to it seemed that they did). I would hope to think we are all on the one side, Muslim Australians along with all other Australians and we can work together to stamp out bigotry on both sides. We are all here together and the only way to go forward not backward is to be good mates. It does seem religion was a factor in the choices the gunman made, although the group known as IS (agree bad name)has their own brand of religion.
Posted by DonMega, Saturday, 20 December 2014 12:16:19 AM
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