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Black and white flag : Comments

By Junaid Cheema, published 17/12/2014

Our way of life is under attack there is very little doubt about that, but by whom?

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The Black and White flag lives in infamy with the Swastika, Hammer and Sickle and other Fascist banners. Monis is just another storm trooper of Islam.
Posted by McCackie, Thursday, 18 December 2014 7:06:59 AM
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Anyway, it wasn't an ISIS flag that that terrorist forced people to hold up: it was an al Qa'ida flag. So there.

And anyway, it's common for that 'shahada' to be printed on Muslim flags - the Saudi flag is green with that shahada across the top.

With a sword underneath. After all, Islam is a religion of peace: so obviously that's the sword of peace.

And anyway, look at all the flags of nominally Christian countries with weapons on them. Like ........ um ......... um ........

Imperialist b@stards !

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 18 December 2014 7:37:36 AM
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Thanks for that article Arjay. It really does go to show that our government, immigration policies and the courts and prison system, all or some of the above need to toughen up. Despite being made aware by the authorities of this mans home land, who wanted him back to face criminal charges, they allowed him into our country and even granting asylum. He, as we have read and heard, had continued to commit crimes. Violent crimes and ones displaying hatred toward Australians. It is clear now that Australian Authorities, back in 1996, made a highly unprofessional decision. I imagine he had been granted citizenship (not sure) and with asylum could not be deported, so released back into our society. There are no doubt a few others like himself who were not thoroughly screened (so as to be deemed non threatening and suitably willing and able to integrate and respect our laws) and bring with them their hatred and extremist attitudes.
The Govt cant go back and fix their mistakes unfortunately, and there will be growing concern and fears over who else is a possible threat to us. Surely to God, the seriousness of taking some control, no, total control over who they allow into our society must be top priority. Before granting asylum or citizenship it must be proven that they are unquestionably genuine. Backgrounds checked and cleared. Fully aware of what may be acceptable in their country, could be considered a crime by our laws and punishable accordingly. Extremist behaviors not tolerated and will lead to deportation.
Posted by jodelie, Thursday, 18 December 2014 7:40:21 AM
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Nice one Loudmouth :)and McCackie
Posted by jodelie, Thursday, 18 December 2014 9:11:39 AM
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I looked on in disbelief as the ABC tried to paint the issue as one of Muslim women being victimised. WTF? Excuse me?

People react to Muslim women with fear and loathing because they understand that by their religious attire they express their support for a belief system that believes in killing innocent people.

The ABC of course asked the Grand Mufti, and he of course said the whole thing has nothing to do with Islam. How nauseatingly typical of theABC. The question is not whether the Grand Mufti says it's okay to kill unbelievers, it's whether the Prophet Mohammed says it, and unfortunately he does, and it's in the Koran, which Muslim publicly women affirm by their hijab.

The apologists then go on to criticise Christians who have killed and persecuted, and rightly so, although strictly speaking irrelevant. However the difference is, when Muslims kill unbelievers, they are doing what Mohammed told them to do; when Christians kill anyone, they are doing what Jesus told them not to do.

Then it is said that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceable people. However that's because they are *not* following the dictates of their religion, not because they are.

The West's traditions and laws of religious toleration grew out of the abysmal experience of the Reformation and Counter-reformation, and the cruel and bloody religious wars that toleration finally put an end to. It was relatively easy for Christians to make that obvious change to a better society, because, unlike Mohammed, Christ explicitly told his followers not to persecute and kill people, even at law; and because of the 18th century Enlightenment's revolution of rationality.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Thursday, 18 December 2014 11:41:24 AM
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(cont.)

Islam has neither of those advantages. ISIS's idea of moral excellence is Mohammed's supposed humanity in saying that slave children should not be sold separately from their slave mother, until they reach puberty. How very enlightened of him.

Those who embrace Islam embrace the teachings of a mass murdering thieving slaving rapist; and the best we can hope for, apparently, is to have them living in our midst and not acting on their belief system, which is what we've got – or had until - now.

But is that really the best we can hope for? Can Muslims really not see and do better than that? Must they be forever the moral imbeciles in modern global society? I don't see why Australians should not be calling on Muslims to *re-think* their belief system. Mohammed may not renounce you for your beliefs - but I do.

I call on Junaid Cheena and his wife to publicly renounce Islam.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Thursday, 18 December 2014 11:44:23 AM
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