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Exaggerating the terror genie: reflections on a fake sheik : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 17/12/2014

While the Sydney holdup says absolutely nothing about a terror 'wave', it is being read as part of a current, with Australia being caught in it.

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It looks like Susioncrack has fled the arena, my next favourite victim is James O'Neill

In answer to your first question, James, Christianity is fundamentally a peaceful religion which is dying a slow death in the West anyway, and even the Old Testament did not order Christians to kill, behead, cut the throats of, or amputate the fingers of, non Christians. My own Christian religious teachers who were allowed to shove their religion down my throat at school, informed me that the New Testament's teachings involving Jesus Christ superseded the Old Testament anyway.

Your second paragraph, posed the question of whether it was fair to blame an entire group for the actions of an individual from that group. Yes it can be. To begin with, all Nazis are considered equally guilty of the Holocaust, and every member of the Ku Klux Klan is considered to be equally reprehensible by most people.

You see if an individual from any minority group engages in hostile acts against another group, which is in full accordance with the stated aims of the minority group, then the entire minority can, and should, be held accountable. The onus is upon the leaders of the minority group to please explain how the culture which defines their group identity, and which clearly declares hostility towards non members, is not entirely responsible for the act of the individual. This the Muslims leaders have failed to do. They can not condemn the violent instructions of their own God towards non believers.

Furthermore, it is necessary form the leaders of the minority group to distance themselves are far as possible from the actions of the individual who has engaged in hostile acts against the majority. This the Muslim leaders have done, but it was only a couple of months ago that these same leaders were condemning Australia's anti terror laws and saying that they would not co operate with the police. Now that one of their number has obeyed the instructions from their evil God, they can hardly complain that their religion should not be condemned in it's entirety.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 20 December 2014 5:19:04 AM
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LEGO,
The Muslim "leaders" don't represent the Muslim population, for example Keysar Trad concedes that his Islamic friendship association only has twelve members and most of the spokespeople with their foundations and institutes are actually individuals.
The "Islamophobia Register" is a woman with a Facebook page and a the liberal minded, well behaved young Muslim women interacting with strangers in Martin Place are an extreme minority, almost an oddity in the Muslim population.
It's very easy to throw Monis under the bus because he was an outsider, a Shi'ite and a known troublemaker, the Sunni Sheikhs don't lose any face among their congregations by condemning him and getting brownie points from the government.
You'll remember though that the Islamic associations in Victoria either refused to comment on the Numan Haider case or refused to condemn him, that's because he was the real thing, a genuine Sunni Jihadi with an unbreakable commitment to Islam who became a martyr for the cause.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 20 December 2014 8:39:49 AM
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Dear lego,

Susionline did not 'flee the arena', it is thread on a virtual discussion site which she left primarily because discussion with people like you, those who get their jollies using terms like 'Susioncrack' and personalising the issue by making inane statements like “allow Susioncrack's husband to beat her with a dirty big stick”, are evidently not interested in civil discourse.

Why is it that people like you seem to get all hairy chested and go after the more gentle participants on this forum? If Susionline had been having a decent go at you then I might understand by she hadn't even mentioned you before your post. You just ripped right on in there then clapped your little hands when you thought you had chalked up a win.

But you aren't a winner are you. Instead these are the actions of a loser.

Well you can keep spewing out your bilious nonsense for all you are worth but instead of wanting to bonk James and others on the head with your little sand bucket how about heading over this way.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 20 December 2014 10:37:13 AM
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Christianity Lego a peacefull religion, I do not think so, havn't you heard of the God given saviour George Bush, why transpose a Dreamtime to Christianity, is Christianity the be all and end all of religions, Abbott & co, peacefull I do not think so when he cannot wait to join his friend Obama to create WW3, torture in jails, but shut mouths by our Government, the Christian religion is no better than any other at killing, raping, torturing etc, but if you read the Murdoch press the Western & Chriistian religion is so squeaky clean, read other media other than that media site,to read some truth for a change. Suseonline is a breath of fresh air with her writings.
Posted by Ojnab, Saturday, 20 December 2014 12:02:50 PM
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LOL, SteeleRedux, the 1950's White Knight who believes that women should be rescued from themselves.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 20 December 2014 12:05:45 PM
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Susie, SteeleRedux and Ojnab and other 'regressives'have shown time and time again that they either deliberatlely misrepresent Chrsit and His teaching or are just totally ignorant. What chance then have they of assessing the 'religion of peace'. Strange how they all support the death cult of killing the unborn. Failure to acknowledge the corruption in one's own heart leads to all sort of irrational conclusions. That is simply why they defend the indefensible.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 20 December 2014 12:12:55 PM
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