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Exaggerating the terror genie: reflections on a fake sheik : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 17/12/2014

While the Sydney holdup says absolutely nothing about a terror 'wave', it is being read as part of a current, with Australia being caught in it.

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@Suseonline, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 10:37:28 AM

As an apologist, of course you would be at pains to spin this evil offender as a 'mental case' to absolve him and Islam from blame. Next you will be reversing the blame completely to make Australian society responsible. Fat chance of that.

Bryant was NOT insane as you imply. He had minimal IQ as many people placed in work through government initiatives often do. He planned and conducted his dreadful crimes.

There are offenders who do evil things. Islam seems to be the springboard for many in modern times.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 12:11:36 PM
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Garbage Jay, just an excuse for not doing what was necessary.

Even if you were worried about a deflection, it could only kill one hostage not two. A No. 2 shotgun blast would take out the window, without being deadly. Yes someone might get cut by a bit of flying glass, surely preferable to being killed.

It is pretty easy to use a first shot, high velocity or shotgun, to break the glass & a second, a split second later to take out the offender. A couple of prepared marksman could do that before the target had actually tightened their muscles to move, let alone moved.

If you want to play with red herrings, go fishing where you'll find herrings, not here.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 12:17:23 PM
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Hi Hasbeen

Spot on. It appears that because a:

Militant Muslim Preacher
Is a Protected Creature

Monis was treated with great concern for His safety - from being on bail to him only being shot after he had shot others.
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Jay of Melbourne

Melbourne may be next.

Considering the nation's resources and media were focussed on Monis' 15 hours of fame more could have been done.

The SAS Eastern Seaboard Counter-Terrorism Team were not called in because our Government underestimated the threat. Note that .50 calibre sniper rifles with various types of ammunition are on hand. Some ammunition would be designed for the circumstances you point to. See "Precision Rifles" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weaponry_of_the_Australian_Army#Infantry_weapons

ABBOTT'S ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY

Abbott's standing in the polls has benefitted from every one of the national security crisis this year, real or manufactured. His speeches have been innumerable:

- from the response to IS in Iraq
- MH17 bravado - "shirtfronting Putin"
- the Night of the 800 Police CT raiders (Monis missed?)

Abbott, however is deflecting the blame onto his subordinates. He is the multi-agency chief with ultimate responsibility for all.
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 12:21:52 PM
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ISIS Reluctant to Claim Australian Hostage Taker as Lone Wolf
http://www.vocativ.com/world/australia-world/man-haron-monis-isis-sydney-hostage-captor/
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 12:23:19 PM
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Pete,
The M107 wouldn't have been much use even with RAUFOSS ammunition, it's an indirect fire weapon designed to kill people in enclosed spaces, the shrapnel would have killed anyone standing close to Monis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK2P70K4c94
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 12:31:56 PM
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It doesn't matter what ISIS says or does not say. It has ordered its followers to take independent actions, which Monis followed through.

All the ducking and diving in the world by ISIS, or our own authorities, can not escape this fact.
Posted by Luciferase, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 12:39:43 PM
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