*Moreover violence is not a choice, it's an impulse conceived and executed by a crude or troubled mind;*

That is a good start, Squeers. All this was detailed in Goleman's "Emotional Intelligence", in terms of how the brain works. The stronger an emotion, the less we think, so somebody in a rage is hardly going to act rationally. Goleman also dealt with the answer. Teaching kids at school all about conflict resolution skills etc, was hugely successful and stays with them for life. We should do it here.

Panto-<Our basic instincts are not overridden by intelligence, they are held in proper tension by our natural urge to respect.>

That's just another way of saying what I said, we override our
natural instincts with our intelligence, which seeks to avoid
hurting others. But it is a tense battle in men with their
high sexual drive.

You say that it is only a few men who are guilty of violence and
a desire to sexually control women.

We are talking about a billion dollar sex industry. That amount of money is being spent by more than just a few men.

The industry has never been able to be shut down by arresting the women, for the simple reason that it is the clients that drive the
industry. In just the way that customers drive the sale of
products at any supermarket, anywhere. If they don't buy, the
item ceases to be sold.

Target the clients.
Lift the secrecy, make it legal for the press to be outside the doors of any sex shop, private residence and on the street-walker streets, with huge big cameras and photos in the papers and on TV the next day. The industry would shut down over night.

A few men you say,(and bullocks to that sir) I stated the example of Isis and their actions in Iraq. If you think that is a few. Lets look at what happened in
Bosnia. Again the Serbian males seeking to bring Serbia back under
their territorial control, systematically killing all the men and
boys of Bosnian ethnicity and raping all the women.

I think if you were present in most wars in history you would
witness this same behaviour from the male of the species.
Hardly a few.

Of course men have a kind side, but I still say that they find
it difficult to override their dominant, territorial, male instincts
and those instincts are a liability in todays overpopulated world.

CHERFUL:

‘That's just another way of saying what I said, we override our
natural instincts with our intelligence, which seeks to avoid
hurting others. But it is a tense battle in men with their
high sexual drive.’

No it’s totally different. I am saying that it is also a natural instinct to not hurt people. Natural instincts are in our body and not in our intelligence. We know what fear and anger are for, we know what the sex drive is for – what is the feeling of guilt for if not to alert us to the fact that we have done wrong or feel like doing wrong?

It is no more a battle in men than in women – it is a fundamental part of our nature which goes deeper than gender differences. I cannot see what sex-drive has to do with violence at all. There is an instinct built into us to make sure our species survives which leads to feelings in our body that propel us towards a behaviour that will lead to reproduction and the continuation of the species. Instincts produce emotions or feelings which galvanise us into moving or action. There is no instinct to violence. There is anger which is a feeling driven by the instinct for justice and that anger moves us to act. Sometimes those actions are irrational and violence is one of those irrational acts. Fear may lead us to behave in a way that seems to be violence but is in effect self-defence.

This is what happens when men or women are violent – they are acting irrationally in response to their anger or fear.

“You say that it is only a few men who are guilty of violence and
a desire to sexually control women.”

I don’t know where you got this from but I certainly did not say it.

So CHERFUL would be keen to males demonised in the media and in other aras of their lives on the basis of a consentual sexual interaction that does not fit with her own approval.

The attitudes in that are not so different to thugs wanting to see gays hurt, or any other form of judgmental thuggery throughout history.

Its a consentual sexual act between adults (and if not the police can deal with it), those choices should never be the subject of public ridicule for any of the parties involved unless they happen to be moral crusaders running a big double standard.

R0bert

Come on CHERFUL, the sex industry is so like the drug industry. In the sex industry it is the prostitutes that are the pushers, profiteering from a captive addicted market.

Prostitution & the public service are probably the only avenues for the average incompetent woman to earn an above average comfortable living, now the average bloke no longer earns enough to support a wife in the manor to which she hopes to become accustomed.

Chris Hedges is a US journalist who has spent most of his life in war zones. He talks about things that no one else does, the attraction of war and describes how some get caught up in it. It starts like love (defence of country, family etc) and ends up destroying everything. He uses a lot of ancient and archetypal ideas ie Thanatos the figure of death and its attractions. I think that a lot of what this discussion is about is to do with these forces. There is anger, aggression, and the allure of violence and power and death. They can be very seductive but their end is annihilation. Every human has some trace of these forces in them. How the culture deals with them is vital. How people deal with these emotions in themselves is also important.
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/chris_hedges_honors_humanists_combating_the_culture_of_war_20141019
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/chris_hedges_takes_on_the_global_culture_of_violence_20141015

What to do about this? Teach kids (adults too) about their emotions in a healthy way. Two really good programmes are "Roots of Empathy" that is making huge differences in classrooms in Canada http://www.rootsofempathy.org/ and Hawn Foundation teaching mindfulness in schools. http://thehawnfoundation.org/

This next link will probably be too much for many of the men but it is women talking about their research with returned service people, men and women, in the US. It is pretty grim but does bring up much of what lies beneath what is being discussed here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owVm053wEb8

Basically men and women, masculine and feminine etc are entangled (like everything else on this planet). Therefore pitting one against the other is stupid. We are all part of the human condition and we need to approach it with clarity, kindness and openness.