Dear Davo G

I'll sicc another David, David S on to you. Ramming a Torah where the sun don't shine.

Alternatively catch this http://youtu.be/JlSQAZEp3PA .

Regards

Pete

Well you go away for a year or so and nothing changes. Still the LW Progs, and Conspiranuts rule the roost.

Here I was hoping 1/ Keith's article would be enlightening (it wasn't) and 2/ the responses would be intelligent. Oh well.

Why do you suppose they chose the name Islamic State? Remember their favoured demographic, not so bright Muslims. There are over a billion of them in the world and which demographic do you think the majority of them fill?

We are not at war with a State. There is no enemy government. We are up against a bunch of marauders. Supported by the not so bright and the fanatical.

They control roads and small areas of cities in largely deserted Iraq countryside. They kill indiscriminately. They rape, pillage and plunder. They are a barbarian horde. They should be treated accordingly.

They are part of the civil war in Syria. They say they seek to create the Caliphate. Hell they already have a Caliph right? A self appointed, self annointed, terrorist. What we are seeing is how easy it is for evil men to rise to power in Muslim lands. It is not in our power to prevent such things.

ConservativeHippie which hole do you talk out of, the one in your pants, seems to be the main one you use, why not for a change have a look at Slate. Com and others where the truth of what is going on in the world instead of the right wing Murdoch press which is complete rubbish, get the truth for a change, then talk out of your mouth, at least David G is worth reading and always right in what he is saying on any subject.

T800 I know how you feel. I've been away for some years and still the same simplistic thought processes dominate the response threads.

No, we are not winning the war on terror. Too many in government love the notion of having many of their constituents afraid. It is not in the interest of those who aspire to power to reassure their citizens. That we are capable and have processes in place to deal with crimes on our own soil.

The twin towers came down and everything, returned to normal. We only now are made to toss half a bottle of Channel no5 in the bin and take off our shoes when we go through 'security' when getting onto a plane. And we have a few more Australian soldiers who died or got horribly maimed on foreign soil.

More people get struck by lightening, nibbled by sharks, die in car crashes, or indeed if a woman in Australia, get killed by an intimate partner, or any number of unnatural ways to die, than die through terrorist activity here in Australia.

Those of you who think this is Islam against the West, clearly do not take any trouble to actually check who mainly gets killed. No, it's not the few hapless Western men who were beheaded, it's other Muslims.

Kactuz, you must live a very, very secluded life. I meet through work and in private plenty of Muslim people, none condone what is done to other Muslims by ISIS.

What some of you might want to investigate is, why ISIS initially has support from local people when they arrive. A bit like how the Taliban was greeted initially in Afghanistan.

Most people want some sense of safety and reliability of services to go about their daily lives. Doesn't matter what race or creed you are. That's why people in some war zone might welcome ISIS and Australians who are made afraid of terrorism welcome curtailment of press and personal freedom.

When I read the news these days, what with the black death and the crusades, I feel like I've been transported back in time 800 years.

"The War on Terror. The causes of terrorism are related to cultural myths and lack of education, injustice and an unfair distribution of wealth. Yet we deal with terrorism by killing 'terrorists' (or people we claim to be terrorists without any process of law and justice). This is state sanctioned murder, and it obviously increases the motivation of terrorists."

Please discuss!