Joe, it would appear that hurling insults at those who don't hold your extreme American-Apologist views is all that is left for you. That's infantile and suggests to me that you've lost the plot altogether.

Worship America if that floats your boat but keep in mind that elevating any nation or person to Saintly status is a clear sign of derangement. No nation is perfect, the U.S. least of all.

Perhaps you're aware of how America got rid of its Native Population? Perhaps you know about American slavery? Perhaps you've even heard of the American Civil War? And that was just the beginning of their brutality.

But I realize, Joe, that you reject any facts which don't support your American idolatry. Tell me, what are you going to tell your kids and grandchildren when the nuclear holocaust comes and seven billion people no longer exist!

You'll probably sing "God Bless America" to them!

David you are correct in what you write, the US is wanting to control the world, even in my life we have had the Cold War with Russia, Korean War, Vietnam war and present day wars, perhaps I have missed others with Sth America, always meddling where it shouldn't be, this creates hatred, is China surrounding us with weapons of mass destruction, is Russia doing the same, no they are not but the US is at them, it is not the general public who want wars, even the American people are sick to death of warmongering Governments, including their own.
The revolutions in France, Russia and Austria were to do with idiots controlling the ordinary citizens, they had to revolt because they were being kept in poverty owing to the rulers living in complete luxury, they were right in throwing them down wells and off with their heads, it really is no different now and it will become much worse, more poverty, more unrest.
Warmongering so called Christians like Abbott excell in killing as long as it is not them, when the plane came down Abbott pounced on Russia, no thought that it may have nothing to do with them, but the US may be involved, the US is quiet on this issue as fighter jets with machine guns were in air space at the time, doubt we will ever know the truth for a hundred years or so which is normal for untruths to become truths
We have three years to go for the next election, one only hopes we can have a statesman of quality by then and not the idiots, both Liberal and Labor we have now.

It's possible David is not entirely correct?

How can Switzerland be compared to America?
Switzerland keeps money for criminals and tyrants.
Hitler kept looted treasure there.

It was America that saved all of us during WWII, after trying to keep out of that war.

Americans came thousands of miles to Guadalcanal during WWII to fight for the freedom and life we have today.

If America had not strived over the years to keep peace in the world, what other nation would have?
Would we still have our freedom as we do today?

What other nation would have developed medicine and technology to the degree and of the standard America did? How many lives has that saved?

When the MH17 came down America immediately said it was a tragic mistake.
In first early news coverage I heard it was the Aus ABC - AM program director, not PM Abbott, that immediately blamed Russian leader Putin.
No trial, guilty according to an ABC employee.

The Aus ABC has been showing bias in news reports supporting the terrorists in Syria, the opposition, the rebels, the free Syria mobs, yet each apparently include lawless gangs and terrorists.

Even now Assad is being blamed by the ABC for 200,000 Syrian deaths, without anything being said about death caused by rebels, by the 'opposition' that started war while hiding among houses and civilians.

What has Assad done that is so bad? What has he been convicted of? Exactly what?
The quickest way to achieve peace is to assist Assad to regain control of all the different argumentative tribes and faiths.

Yes many Americans are sick of the wars, especially the maiming of their own people, balls and all blown right off, others crippled for life, many many dead.

Think who started the present Middle East conflict.
It was Osama Bin Ladin killers that invaded America, 9/11.

You knockers on this site should take a trip to Guadalcanal Island and look at the monuments and war wreckage where the carnage took place, instead of blowing people to bits in streets of Brisbane, Darwin and Sydney.

Tag-team,

So ISIS is a fascist movement, but you don't mind it ? Is that it ? Still beats supporting the Yanks ?

If there is to be a nuclear war, it is far more likely to arise out of the contending parties in the Middle east - especially the Saudis (and their nuclear backers, Pakistan) and Iran (and its nuclear backers, including India).

If anything, that's Obama's task - to keep those forces apart, precisely so that a nuclear war can be avoided. The Yanks will not start a nuclear war in that region in your lifetimes.

Wow, that takes us up to 2100.

Joe

2020 - Protocol To Be Observed By All Non-Americans.

1. When an American walks by, all non-exceptional people will bow deeply.

2. When sighting an American flag, make the sign of the Cross.

3. If Obama is shown on television, sing God Bless America, all verses.

4. If American Armed Forces march by, throw rose petals enthusiastically.

5. If American drones pass overhead, pray for forgiveness.

6. When drinking Coca Cola, use a silver chalice.

7. When approaching an American war-zone, never don a suit that repels radio-activity. It is un-American.

8. Wear a large sign that says: Yanks, Deliver Us From Evil For Thou Art The Power!

9. Tell all your friends: We love rendition and waterboarding and cages. Be sincere!

10. Once a week, attend an American checkpoint and confess all your inadequacies and anti-American thoughts and beg to be given leniency during the remedial flogging.

11. Once a week, curse your Mother because she’s not American.

12. On your car, carry a large sign which says: America, The World’s Greatest Nation.

Hi David,

Gosh, that will go down well amongst the other kids at West Footscray High tomorrow :) The Year v11 kids might think it's a bit childish but,

So what did that achieve ? You think nobody else can be as childish ? How's this:

1. Since they're not US, and in order to avoid premature 'detachment', suck up to an ISIS member, and kiss his @rse.

2. Lend him your sister; when he's finished, lend him your mother; if you hav e a brother under ten years old, lend him out to the boys; if you have a donkey, or a chook, he might prefer those.

3. In order for you not to become too 'detached', dob in your neighbour.

And so on. Not that hard, really.

BTT (sorry, Goose): There are better forces in the world, presumably, than the US. But there are worse forces - Assad, ISIS, al-Qa'ida (oh, you don't think it exists ?), Boko Haram, etc.

There are also vast populations which are under imminent threat of extermination, by not being Sunni AND Arab: Kurdish, for instance, or Yazidi. Or far worse, atheist.

Many of them call on the US for military support, tov prevent their extermination. B@stards ! Still, perhaps they have a point, not wanting to be 'detached'.

So the US has to work out priorities: Assad is a brutal dictator (how come authoritarians and their suckholes love brutality ? Perhaps the finality, the 'purity' of it); al-Nusra is a brutal force too; but ISIS is an even more brutal force.

So the US will be forced to toy with the idea of combatting ISIS and leaving Assad alone. But this will piss off the Turks and probably the Saudis. If they try to keep the Turks on-board, they may have to sell out the Kurds and I don't think they will do that.

Fiendish dilemmas !

[TBC]