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Hamas evil must be confronted and defeated in Gaza : Comments

By David Singer, published 13/8/2014

One month of fierce fighting between Israel and Hamas has resulted in an enormous propaganda victory for Hamas as horrific pictures have appeared daily in social media and newspapers around the world.

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Lego a history lesson.

The Jews were thrown out of Palestine by the Romans long before the Arabs conquered Palestine and forced their language and their religion on the local inhabitants.

The Muslims never stole Jewish lands. The majority of the people of Palestine lived there continuously, and they became converts to Islam. Few Jews have as continuous a tenure to the lands of Palestine.

The original Hebrews who were thrown out of Egypt stole the land from the original Philistines. Shouldn't they claim Egyptian lands? Oh that's right the extremists do. Greater Israel and the Zionists claim their god gave them all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates.

Your lack of knowledge and belief in the lies you are fed is again on display.

Many Jews would have the same historical claim on the lands of Palestine as I have. None.
Posted by imajulianutter, Saturday, 23 August 2014 1:40:35 PM
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'Have you(vdub) got a Time Line Link for Atrocities committed by Moslems, that would be great, please.' Jb

'Jayb, sorry I don’t have a link to the material you’re after.' vdub

Guess why not Jb?
Go on v dub tell him why not.

lol you blokes make me laugh.
Posted by imajulianutter, Saturday, 23 August 2014 2:04:13 PM
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Nutter: The Jews were thrown out of Palestine by the Romans long before the Arabs conquered Palestine.

Not all of them, only the trouble makers. Ok, there was a lot.

Nutter: The Muslims never stole Jewish lands.

Yes they did. "and forced their language and their religion on the local inhabitants."

Nutter: The majority of the people of Palestine lived there continuously, and they became converts to Islam.

Did not "become" converts. It was convert or die. Nothing has changed.

Nutter: Few Jews have as continuous a tenure to the lands of Palestine.

Well since it ceased to be Roman "Syria Palestine" sometime in the 3rd. Century & did not become Palestine again until 1923. I don't see how you can claim that.

cont
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 23 August 2014 3:06:52 PM
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Nutter: The original Hebrews who were thrown out of Egypt stole the land from the original Philistines.

Sort of true, They were the remains of the Exodus after the Hittites took over the Throne of Egypt. "There came a Pharaoh who knew not Joseph"

Nutter: Shouldn't they claim Egyptian lands? Oh that's right the extremists do.

The Philistines came from the Islands south of Greece when The Island of Santorini Blew up. The survivors thought they would go to Egypt but as Egypt was in a drought at the time they couldn't absorb them. The Egyptians settled them on the land that wasn't being used at the time. The area from the southern tip of Gaza to just north of Tyre. This was all Egyptian lands at the time anyway. They became the Philistines or the Sea People.

Nutter: Greater Israel and the Zionists claim their god gave them all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates. No, that was the people of the Exodus who became the Hebrews when they came in from the Desert after wandering for 40 years.

Nutter: Your lack of knowledge and belief in the lies you are fed is again on display.

I guess you get all your knowledge from the Bible & nowt else. Like the Moslems get all their knowledge from the Koran & are about as silly as one another, & the Torah for the Jews. I suggest you do your research elsewhere.

Nutter: Many Jews would have the same historical claim on the lands of Palestine as I have. None.

Careful there. If you trace you family history back you may find that, way back, you are descendant from some Jews. My Ancestry History goes back to Kohath ben Levi 275BC.

Nutter: Guess why not Jb? Go on v dub tell him why not.

Well I guess Avw didn't look. I did, there's plenty to chose from.

http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/crusades_timeline.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9W1S89aDDc. (Parts 1 - 4)
http://sikh.freedombulwark.com/
http://factreal.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/muslim-crusades-started-four-centuries-before-the-western-crusades/

Shall I go on?
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 23 August 2014 3:07:04 PM
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Julianutter, a history lesson and a social lesson.

The Jews were ethnically cleansed by the Egyptians 3,700 years ago and they crossed the Sinai and ethnically cleansed the pagans in the area we now call Palestine/Israel. They have had a continuous presence in Israel/Palestine since that time, which is more than I can say for the Muslims. After settling in Israel, they were one of the few people's in the world who were content with their territory and they were never expansionist. They just wanted to be left alone. But they were ethnically cleansed by the Babylonians under Nebuchnezzar because they would not submit to Babylon. They were then ethnically cleansed by the Romans because they were only one of two races to ever challenge the might of Rome through insurrection. (the other was Britain) But they kept coming back. They are still coming back. This time they have nuclear weapons and they are not leaving.

The Ottoman Muslims did not ethnically cleanse them by force, they just squeezed the Jewish lemon until the pips squeaked, to give the Jews the right idea about converting to Islam. That is ethnic cleansing too. Palestine was never a country, it had always been a province within somebodies empire. The Jews have as much right to declare a certain ungoverned and near anarchic region as "their country", as the Australians have to declare an ungoverned and almost empty continent of Australia as "their country."

Now for your immigration double standard. Immigrants to Australia are considered "Australians" even though they were never born here. But by some application of double think, you feel that Jewish immigrants to Israel can not enjoy the same privilege.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 23 August 2014 3:25:24 PM
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What about refugees returning to Palestinian lands jb?
Posted by imajulianutter, Saturday, 23 August 2014 10:10:19 PM
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