Hi Mikk.,

'Fight war, not wars !"

Gosh, how noble, how lofty.

So how to stop the indiscriminate firing off of rockets, a couple of thousand at last count. No, they didn't hit much, but that's not for want of trying. The intent, after all, of every one is to hit a Jew.

"END TERRORISM, NEGOTIATE ON THE BASIS OF COMMON HUMANITY."

Wow, upper-case looks so commanding.

Joe

Dear Mikk,

<<The murderous response from the zionists>>

The response you refer to is by the state of Israel.
Some of those are Zionists, other not, but as far as Hamas is concerned, if they had their way they would kill every Israeli - they won't ask any questions to find who is a Zionist and who isn't.

<<arab hating shills will never convince the world otherwise.>>

As above, some Israelis hate Arabs, others don't.

Nevertheless, if Hamas had its way, it would not ask indivdual Israelis whether they hate them or not - they will just throw them in the Mediterranean sea first.

You are right that neither Arab-hating nor Arab-loving Israelis will ever convince the world of anything, but this way, doing what they do they are at least alive - not convincing, but alive, rather than convincing and dead.

Re Zoinism --here's an enlightening little snippet:

"Later that February, AQI (Al-Qaeda in Iraq) chief Abu-Umar al-Baghdadi declared Israel to be a religious state in which there is no difference between Judaism and Zionism. Both were ‘the core and origin of corruption’ Israel was ‘a malignant germ that has been planted in the body of the ummah that must be extracted” ’ [ Osama Bin Laden , Michael Scheuer , p158]

#mikk

You quote me and then comment in the following terms:

"Respect for life has become the real victim."

Says the side with 1000+ peoples blood on their hands.

Just how stupid do you zionists think we are?

It is israel killing children and civilians not the Palestinians.
It is israel blowing up peoples houses and community infrastructure not the Palestinians.
It is israel stealing peoples land and committing ethnic cleansing not the Palestinians."

That is a pretty inane summation of what has occurred.

Here are some facts:

1. 8 July - Operation Protective Edge commenced

2. 16 July - Ceasefire brokered by Egypt was accepted by Israel and rejected by Hamas. There was no justifiable reason for Hamas rejecting the offer to cease fire. The first objective was always to end the military confrontation and see where talks went from there. At this stage there were 135 reported Gazan deaths and 1139 casualties.

3. 17 July - Israeli ground forces entered Gaza

4. 30 July - 1139 Gazans reported dead and 6200 casualties

The Hamas decision to reject the 16 July ceasefire has seen 1004 additional deaths and 5183 additional casualties that could have been avoided had Hamas not spit the dummy and rejected the ceasefire.

Hamas's continuing refusal to accept a ceasefire is going to ensure a lot more Gazan deaths and casualties until the indiscriminate firing of rockets into Israeli population centres ceases.

Does Hamas show any respect for human life of the 1.8 million Gazans it rules over - whose lives remain in danger in Gaza as Hamas terrorists keep themselves secreted safely away in underground tunnels without caring how many Gazans die and are wounded as Hamas carries out its vile campaign targeting Israeli civilians indiscriminately?

Taking sides. Yuyutsu and David Singer et al.: There are more sides than two. Think historically – to the war when Australians were virtually unanimous on one side between the European Resistance and the vermin who were occupying their homelands by force and violence. This had to mean taking sides with sundry Communists, enemies of the people, NKVD butchers, etc. etc. But between the Resistance and the Krauts it was a no-brainer – resist to get the occupiers’ pig snouts out of their country. Would the Resistance concede the Germans’ right to exist? Of course. But not their vile Reich. Would they listen to enemies of their own people (indeed of the whole world) pretending sympathy and urging them to lay down their arms and accept submen status in return for the overlords’ permission to live? No way.

The basic facts of history have repeated themselves in Palestine. They repeated themselves in South Africa. They have repeated themselves wherever overlords have ruled over a people by force and violence without justice in the people’s own homeland. Taking sides between the overlords and those they treat as submen is always a clear choice. Where Yuyutsu and David Singer et al. currently stand, the side they choose between overlords and submen, defines them.

There is no reason that an Israel under Palestinian rule would be any better than such peaceful, tranquil and non-sectarian countries as Lebanon, Syria and Iraq