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What women need…. : Comments

By Mishka Góra, published 19/2/2014

Why aren't we also talking about what men need for St Valentine's Day? Why are we saying that women need support when they first need to take some responsibility?

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Daffy Duck,
Feminism is hate.

“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” – Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor

“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” -– Valerie Solanas

“I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.” — Andrea Dworkin

“Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” — Susan Brownmiller

“The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men.” — Sharon Stone

“In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.” — Catherine MacKinnon

“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” — Sally Miller Gearhart

“Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience.” – Catherine Comins

“All men are rapists and that’s all they are” — Marilyn French

“Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release.” — Germaine Greer.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 7:58:05 PM
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For a gal who doesn't like bossy women, this was one heck of a bossy article. Move over, Miss Jean Brodie!

I usually make a point of reading an entire article before commenting, but I had to make an exception in this case. I bailed at about paragraph 5, as I was drowning in faux-feminism tropes and clichés and mindsets and paradigms and myths and fallacies about women's equality being all about liddle girl-childwens not wanting to gwow up and making life so hard for the mens.

Yeah, sure. It sucks for men when women have the audacity to expect to get within coo-ee of 20% equality with them - but hey, there's still about 80% to go so your precious privileges are safe ... for now.

And by the way, if you want to know what to get your wife for Valentine's Day, forget the flowers and candlelight dinner. Just get her a cleaner for a day and she'll love you forever.
Posted by Killarney, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 8:31:33 PM
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Here is another couple JOM.

Any man accused of rape should go to prison even if he did not do it, to make up for the ones who did do it & got away with it..... one of the Feminist Councillors at the Townsville Women's Shelter in the late 80's at a Claim the Night day in the Mall.

They were in uniform that day. Short back & sides, uncombed, Boilersuits & side boobs, no make up or deodorant & really nasty attitudes & obviously cheering for the other side (-; Telling everyman that walked past that the needed counselling & telling the wives that they were there to help them escape from the evil of men.

Also. Men who are nice to their wives only do so, so they can control them. My wife ex-friend who is a Women's Shelter Councillor.

I watched for an interesting few hours. It was hilarious.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 8:32:45 PM
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If feminists knew how to be a woman they wouldn't say such idiotic things. It's the age-old female vs woman & male vs man. It's akin to trying to legislate against stupidity. Too stupid to realise it's a punishment so they strive on it.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 10:14:25 PM
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An annoying article.
I hate to be told what women need.
As if all women can be lumped together in one holy basket.

Mishka, you should be thanking the 'feminists' and their supporters who came before us. For without them, you would not be enjoying the freedoms you have today.

“We need to reclaim the word 'feminism'. We need the word 'feminism' back real bad. When statistics come in saying that only 29% of American women would describe themselves as feminist - and only 42% of British women - I used to think, What do you think feminism IS, ladies? What part of 'liberation for women' is not for you? Is it freedom to vote? The right not to be owned by the man you marry? The campaign for equal pay? 'Vogue' by Madonna? Jeans? Did all that good s##t GET ON YOUR NERVES? Or were you just DRUNK AT THE TIME OF THE SURVEY?”
― Caitlin Moran, How to Be a Woman"
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 20 February 2014 12:59:11 AM
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Suse

'... only 29% of American women would describe themselves as feminist - and only 42% of British women'

What's so terrible about that? 29% is just under 1 in 3 and 42% is almost 1 in 2. Considering the relentless smearing, distorting and misrepresenting of feminism in the mainstream media - where most people form their views about feminism - I'd say they're pretty good statistics.

Add to that the fact that feminism is a political philosophy (or tool of analysis of the distribution of power across the genders) and only really manifests as a movement from time to time to achieve specific goals (for the vote, EEO, rape law reform etc). Considering most people prefer to see themselves as a-political, it's heartening to see that at least 1 in 3 American and 1 in 2 British women are sufficiently gender-politicized to identify themselves as feminist within a very anti-feminist political culture.
Posted by Killarney, Thursday, 20 February 2014 6:48:11 AM
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