David, why do you not live in "Israel", instead of living here in Australia; a democracy.

David

But your list of countries who are supposedly practicing religious apartheid is perverse.
Turkey, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, cameroon - your not serious

Did you just pick these out at random?
Many of the countires you picked have like morocco 99% Muslim population.
Surely, one essential requirement would be at least some percentage together with a history of systemic violence and prejudice against its minorities.

By any sensible definition, Isreal is virtually on its own.

I am happy for you to cite legitimate examples.

I concede there are more religious states , however, than I had previously believed. On the flip side, it must surely be sobering for Israelis and their supporters to reflect on the company you keep by being classed with these theocracies.

Dear Yebiga,

We have just discussed this issue on Singer's previous topic, yet I am disappointed to see you repeating, many times over, the claim as if Israel is a religious state.

Say what you say about Israel - there is nothing religious about its behaviour.

The Jewish god is not God, but their own nationalistic invention. God never instructed anyone to behave that badly - you are offending without any true grounds all religious people, and not just Jews, by naming such perverse attitudes and actions as "religious". Please refrain from doing this injustice.

#Yebiga

The 57 countries I mentioned are members of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference:

Chapter II(2)of the Organisation's Charter provides:

"Any State, member of the United Nations, having Muslim majority and
abiding by the Charter, which submits an application for membership may join the Organisation if approved by consensus only by the Council of Foreign Ministers on the basis of the agreed criteria adopted by the Council of Foreign Ministers."

Get it - Muslim majority.

I am not perverse, I am serious, I did not pick these out at random.

Your views and opinions are ill-informed and directed by a hatred of Jews.

You round off your comments with this little gem:

"I concede there are more religious states , however, than I had previously believed."

An admission at last that your pompous utterance was wrong and revealed no real basis of the rubbish you were spouting.

Of course you cannot try to crawl out from under with this bit of arrant nonsense:

"On the flip side, it must surely be sobering for Israelis and their
supporters to reflect on the company you keep by being classed with these theocracies."

No Yebiga - if you have any vestige of credibility you should be shouting from the rooftops that these 57 States are in your own words:

"by any measure of decency wrong, anachronistic, barbaric, anthropological."

Bet you have never expressed this view about any of these countries. Israel seems to be the sole focus of your hatred.

Candide:

My views are those of a Jew who supports the right of the Jewish people to have its National Home in its ancient biblical and legally recognized homeland - recognized as the one Jewish State in the world alongside 57 Islamic States recognized in the world.

What is your view? Do you support the right of the Jews to have their own State?

Kipp:

What an inane contribution.

Have you anything to say about what appears in my article - anything?

If not - I suggest you crawl back under the rock with all your other Jew-hating friends.

Well David, implicit in my advice for Israelis was to consider the company they keep with these theocracies. Surely this suggests I am condemning them. Being a lawyer, I am surprised something so patent escaped you.

It appears impossible for you to post a single reply to me without wasting both our time casting an anti- Semitic slur. It surely must be apparent, I don't give a rats whether someone believes me racist or not. The term racist for someone like me living in a secular multicultural country like australia, who is not an apologist for violence against any people is entirely meaningless. You on the other hand have some serious psychic issues to grapple with. Moreover, Arabs and Jews are traditionally at least both Semites. So the whole anti-Semitic slur is simply nonsensical

It is of course no accident that you must at all times find anti-Semites. For what but anti-semiticism enabled Israel? What but this anti-semiticism sustains it, defines it? The very survival of Israel requires anti-semiticism. Lets be totally frank, Israel can not survive a peace - any peace.

Consider that, when I concede an error, you see this weakness as an opportunity to humiliate me and dismiss me. Concessions normally act as lubricant for greater rationality, reasonableness and even cordiality. You on the other hand have just found another anti-Semite.

You know full well that a secular australian such as myself is naturally repulsed by the kind of intolerant religious prescriptions prevalent in Saudi Arabia, or any kind of strict fundamentalism. If you doubted it, you could have asked.

Well, david we do understand. Anyone who looks at the Israeli problem understands. To support Israel requires more than a little fanaticism. The constant referencing to anti-semitism, the holocaust is vital - it is the only thread to humanity. It is all that is left of it. It defines everything and without it there can be no justification for Israel

Yuyudsu
I am sorry if my use of the word religion or religious is offensive to you. It is, however, virtually impossible to discuss Israel without referencing Religion. For it is precisely religion as that detailed in the Old Testament which supports and justifies the title claim for the land known as Israel.

Thus, I am at a loss as how to assuage your feelings and still take any part in this discussion.