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Palestine: Jordan not jumping for joy : Comments

By David Singer, published 13/2/2014

Jordan is becoming increasingly unhappy at the role US Secretary of State John Kerry might be planning for it in his eagerly anticipated framework agreement designed to end the 130 years old Jewish-Arab conflict.

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An even better solution would be for Israel, Palestine and Jordan to form a single secular democratic nation and the whole world could jump for joy.

It is a crime of reason to persist with this religious state. Aside from Iran, we see this no where else but in Israel. All the accumulated wisdom of history says, move on. Every holocaust victim cries, move on. The Religious state is by any measure of decency wrong, anachronistic, barbaric, anthropological.

It is high time for the world to turn its back on this bile. Israel is a pariah, a grotesque mistake. To expunge the guilt of repeated pogroms and the holocaust the Western World made a grave mistake in enabling a religious state. The hypocrisy of continuously criticising a billion Muslims for their outdated prejudices and practices whilst at the same time defending an equally culturally backward and religious State of Israel makes no sense.

The road map to peace must begin with ending the religious apartheid. To achieve this the international community must unite as it did against South Africa: economic sanctions, trade sanctions, cease diplomatic ties, sporting and cultural ties. Only, when we have the courage to be honest and confront Israel by well established standards of decency will Israel take any serious steps towards a resolution with their Palestinian brothers or their neighbours.

Until such times, these peace roadmaps merely embolden Israeli settlement expansion and enmity towards their Palestinian victims.
Posted by YEBIGA, Thursday, 13 February 2014 11:48:02 AM
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Whats up David the 4 corners program bit to close to the truth for you,I see you are back to your usual prattle,you & your Zionist friends are loosing the war Dave.
And you on here posting BS about things aint going to stop it,as the Germans murdered Jews you have no problem with Settlers murdering Palestinian men,women,children & steal their homes land water what a great bunch of people your defending.
But then given the way you think everything the IDF and Settlers do and say is OK by you,all because of the deluded beliefs written down by tribes people describing myths and legends.
That in truth never happened,and no amount of your propaganda can make it different,I see more evidence is emerging about the WAR CRIMINAL Sharon just another bunch of Arabs murdered by him because they got in his way,every one involved knew but no one said a word.
Add that to his Lebanon murders among other things,but you Dave will defend him to the end,Israel learned well from the NAZIs so they are trying to use the same methods on the Palestinians.
They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery,ring a bell Dave
Posted by John Ryan, Thursday, 13 February 2014 2:04:58 PM
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#Yebiga

You state:

"It is a crime of reason to persist with this religious state. Aside from Iran, we see this no where else but in Israel."

Are you aware there are 57 Islamic States in the world - about 20% of the world's population?

In your words - is it "high time for the world to turn its back on this bile"

Are the following States also "pariahs"? Do they not practice "religious apartheid"?:

Afghanistan, Guyana,Pakistan, Albania,Indonesia Palestine,Algeria Iran,Qatar,Azerbaijan,Iraq,Saudi Arabia,Bahrain,Jordan,Senegal,
Bangladesh,Kazakhstan,Sierra Leone,Benin, Kuwait,Somalia,Brunei-Darussalam,Kyrgyz Republic,Sudan,Burkina,Faso,Lebanon,Suriname,
Cameroon,Libya,Syria(presentlysuspended),Chad,Malaysia,Tajikistan,
Comoros,Maldives,Togo,Cote d'Ivoire,Mali,Tunisia,Djibouti,Mauritania,
Turkey,Egypt,Morocco,Turkmenistan,Gabon,Mozambique,Uganda,Gambia,NigerUnited Arab Emirates,Nigeria,Uzbekistan,Guinea-Bissau,Oman,Yemen

Give them your message - loud and clear:

"The Religious state is by any measure of decency wrong, anachronistic, barbaric, anthropological."

Gosh - with a little bit of luck they might just put out a fatwa on you - and all your friends with the same views as you.

To #John Ryan

You are definitely in need of some calming down to eradicate your vile Jew-hatred.

Here are some recent developments by my "Zionist friends"

· Two major Israeli discoveries that could revolutionize treatments for Alzheimer’s.
· A new Israeli treatment for Attention Deficiency Disorder
· Israel won an international award in recognition of the number of women in Israel’s parliament.
· Israeli humanitarian work is expanding in both Syria and in the Philippines.
· An Israeli company is building Honduras’ first geothermal power plant.
· Apple buys Israeli gesture technology company PrimeSense for $350 million

Hate on ...
Posted by david singer, Thursday, 13 February 2014 3:36:31 PM
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The 4corners program was edited to convey a specific, biased anti Israeli view, instantly absorbed by the witless to confirm their narrow media directed view. In this instance, the ABC was acting as a mere mouthpiece for the usual UN garbage.

As for the IDF? Well, perhaps when "Youssef Zeidan, a prominent Egyptian scholar and author, declared in a televised interview that Muslim anti-Semitism and anti-Israel attitudes were attributable to indoctrination, ignorance …and stupidity", he could have been referring to the latest ABC 4 corners episode. The Al Jazeera news anchor then asked on camera why Arab armies couldn’t be as humanitarian as the Israeli army in terms of trying to prevent civilian casualties".

I guess the ABC 4 corners mob left that bit on the cutting room floor, didn't quite fit the narrative you see.

Back to the substance of Mr Singer suggestion. The Jordanians, whether they like it or not, are a key player in the equation and will be feeling the discomfort of this position. I do not see why they should feel this way because, as stated by AbuIyad - "You cannot make a distinction between a Jordanian and a Palestinian....all those who tried in the past and are still trying to create divisions between the Jordanian and Palestinian people have failed". I guess we watch with interest to see what unfolds here.
Posted by Prompete, Thursday, 13 February 2014 4:05:11 PM
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David, the Israeli achievements you mention are not necessarily those of Zionists. I dislike two things about your articles: they convey the impression your Zionist views are those of all Israelis and they appear far too frequently on OLO without counterbalancing articles.
Posted by Candide, Thursday, 13 February 2014 4:45:47 PM
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Candied. I take your point. For a countervailing view you could access the ABC, Bob Carr or even Tanya Plibersek. Unfortunately, they come without any links or reference to either current or historic legal support.
Posted by Prompete, Thursday, 13 February 2014 5:35:33 PM
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