PtbI: these boats were SOLD to Indonesia way back in 1985 before any of this people smuggling issue.

You are right they were sold for a pittance, not for their true value. But where were they when they were supposed to be patrolling South of Java & where were the Frigates? Indonesia said they didn't have any ships to Patrol with. Obviously a big Lie.

Mate, everybody proud of their Country, it's only natural.

What we should be ashamed of is our Politicians. Yours & mine. They all tell lies. In the name of diplomacy. That's what diplomacy is all about. They, (all sides) are especially good at lying to their own people.

Ours are always fighting each other instead of looking after the Australian People.

Yours for being the 4th. most corrupt Nation in the World. You know, as well as just about everybody else, that Kick backs & bribery is an Indonesian Sport & way of life. Everybody from the President down to the local cop is making an extra buck that way.

As for AID, I am greatly in favour of cutting off AID to every Country except for emergencies like the tsunami. As you say the AID you get from other Countries is a Pittance & you don't really meed it.

There was an Indonesian Politician recently who threatened to stop trading with Australia if we reduced our AID. Was he upset about missing out on the Kick backs? I assume so.

I have been told by Australian Sailors that there was an unofficial arrangement with the Indo Government about patrolling through Indonesian waters, so Indo boats didn't have to come out. This came to an end with the Spying thing.

PtbI: LOL, what a childish excuse. (the Spying thing by the ALP)

You are pulling on a long straw here. Abbot was not responsible for the Spying. It'd be a good bet that he didn't even know about it until it was revealed. Then he had to make excuses for what someone else was responsible for & that's not right. If the bloke down the road stole your bike should you be held responsible. I didn't think so.

Proud to be

Hey have you heard the latest from your military. The boats they are sending are to assist Australia to stop the boats.

All too late. We have already done that by sending them bsck to you anyway.

Lol you look silly without a face.

See the latest, PtbI.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/21295639/no-apology-from-abc-over-boat-story/

Proud to be Indonesian,

If you are, why?