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Truth is the first victim of war : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 28/1/2014

The Prime Minister, Tony Abbott and the Minister for Immigration, Scott Morrison, have taken Australia down a path from which there are only two outcomes, further aggression and confrontation with Indonesia or retreat.

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If this bloke is an example of the people in our diplomatic service, no wonder we fail in all things diplomatic.

This bit of anti Oz fluff is not worthy of publication.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:46:33 AM
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It’s no surprise that Bruce Haigh blames Abbott and Morrison (no friends of mine) for anything and everything that has and could happened between Australia and Indonesia, even when the blame lies squarely with Indonesia, whose government has become even more stupid in the build up to elections.

The latest nonsense is about Indonesia’s sovereignty. So, out come the warships – many of them donated by us, or bought with our money – to protect their sovereignty from big, bad Australia. Ships that they said that they DIDN’T HAVE to help overcome people smuggling!

Wonder if there is anyone like Bruce in Indonesia saying “we should not upset Australia because we will not be able to continue bludging off them as we do now”.

Bruce also makes the mistake that Abbott is a “conservative intellectual”; he is neither, and we have had a gut full of intellectuals any way. As for lacking “thoughtful consideration”, we all know that anyone who disagrees with Bruce will never be accused of that! The Left thinks that questioning peoples’ intellect will encourage them not to argue with the likes of Bruce, who are oh so clever.

It is understandable that the Labor and the Left in general are highly annoyed by the loss of a 24 hour news cycle about illegal boar arrivals. But, the rest of us just want the boats stopped, as Abbott promised, and we don’t care how they do it. Added to the Left outrage, even through the ‘silence’, the turn back and discouragement of boats seems to be working. That must really hurt!

Back to Indonesia. Why is it right for them to question Morrison’s honesty of an alleged incursion into their waters? Morrison is a liar; the Indonesians are honest? Yeah, what about the warships that suddenly popped up!

It’s well past the time Australia started to rattle a few sabres of its own against Indonesia; they are selfish leeches, and no aid whatsoever should be given to them. Illegals are coming here with their help and knowledge. We have nothing to lose.
Posted by NeverTrustPoliticians, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:48:44 AM
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"there are only two outcomes, further aggression and confrontation with Indonesia or retreat". Or, more likely, harmonious relationships with Indonesia and a cessation of illegal boarder incursions.

"The diplomatic subtleties and nuances required to maintain and build that relationship have been sacrificed" by the wholly unprofessional and arguably treasonable actions of amateurish and subjective ABC reporting.

"Morrison has proven a willing attack dog. His anger and downright nastiness were on public display on ABC TV, on 22 January, in his defence of Australian Navy personnel alleged to have burnt the hands of asylum seekers.". An anger wholly justified by the Armature hearsay broadcast by rank partisanship. No, it wasn't an Iranian woman with twins, it was a Rohingan Asian woman with a single child... Public correction? Apology for misinformation Where?

"The Indonesians are right to question the honesty of Morrison’s response to claims that Australian naval vessels breached their maritime boundary." The Indonesians would not have known about it unless Morrison and the navy had not told them duh! But it is ok for the navy to go within a couple of kilometres of their coast to rescue Indonesian sailors in distress??

"the less salubrious aspects of the illegal operation being run against asylum seekers". Shouldn't that read 'legal and government sanctioned actions taken to stop illegal foreign incursions into Australian sovereign territory?

Bruce, I could go on and on at each and every predictable point you make in this 'crass' political diatribe, a diatribe loaded with emotive, predictable distortions and the hypocritical moral superiority to be expected from the left. Sooo boring mate, get over it
Posted by Prompete, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:32:12 AM
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'His anger and downright nastiness were on public display on ABC TV, on 22 January, in his defence of Australian Navy personnel alleged to have burnt the hands of asylum seekers. '

I would suggest you look at your own nastiness Bruce. Were you not one of the huge number on the left and particularly ABC who have egg all over their face and now are so desperate that they will believe any lie to demonise good men. The lack of drownings seems of no concern to you Bruce. Its amazing.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:35:13 AM
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@ NeverTrustPoliticians, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:48:44 AM

Well said. Spot on.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:44:48 AM
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@ Shrode:

How can you examine something which doesn't exist?
Posted by JohnBennetts, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 12:37:40 PM
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