Yuyutsu: When an atheist does charity without expectations, they undermine their ego, which is just what religion is supposed to be doing. Once ego is gone, they too realise their true identity as God. Forget then about the name 'God': that YOU ARE is undeniable.

What a load of crap Yuyutsy. Your assumption of Atheist's is all squiff. Atheists give because it's the right thing to do under the circumstances not to curry favour with some "GOD." It has nothing to do with their EGO. Some people cut & paste their own EGO's onto what they don't like because that's exactly what they're are really like themselves.

Dear Jayb,

I make no assumptions about atheists: Atheists, like everyone else, give for a myriad of different reasons.

If and when someone, be they atheist or otherwise, does charity without expecting any favour in return, neither from people nor from God (perhaps as you say, because they believe that it's the right thing to do under the circumstances), then by doing so they undermine their ego, letting it starve, thus they come closer to God.

Atheists can be religious like anybody else, the only difference being that they do not use the specific religious practice of believing in God - yet there are plenty of other religious practices, and doing things simply because "it's the right thing to do under the circumstances", is one of them.

Arriving at this blessed level of always doing things simply because "it's the right thing to do under the circumstances" (and always avoiding doing other things that are "not the right thing to do under the circumstances"), is not easy. Most people cannot do it straight away, so religion helps them to develop their character, so they may gradually reach this level.

one under god –

You seem very insecure about your opinions. I note you call Richard Dawkins ‘dorkins’. You also called me phantasm. Why do you need to try and put people down by ridiculing them? Surely if you are secure in your views you would not have to behave aggressively towards people simply because they have a different opinion to yourself.

phantasm..your name has no meaning..to me..at all
so..i read..your posts..and note how you come and go..
on..occasion for years at a time..so to me your phantom/or phantasm

as for dickk dorklings..i once beat him at his own site
in a debate about a theory..of his re flatfish..evolving their eyes..cause dorkins claimed the poor things evolved they eyes..because one eye was dragging in/the mud[just after i proved to him/that flatfish fry..look-like normal fish..he hit delete..4 pages of 'debate..simply disappeared..10 minutes after

so he became dic dorkies..maybe in time if you dont run
you might earn a real m\name[but as you didnt reply the topic..phanto suits you better[its not complete/eiher]..nor are you..you sound knowledgeable/maybe even inteligent..but trollls who dont reply the topic reveal they got nuthin

next time you will say you cant understand me
or other insults..like meds..its all opinion ..and my opinion is your going to do what..the phantasm..do..your certainly no phantom

feel better now?
no further off topic trolling replied to
likely you will just do..a dic/dorkins..anyhow im/not christian..either..but im willing to help..see you around?

or not..[.my...money...is you'll..be doing..'a runner']..
here today..tomorrow who knows[duel id?].[you dont say anything interesting enough to do the study..[good luck..and all that..

[Deleted. You and OUG can take your squabble somewhere else.]

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