jayb/quote..<<..Of course that statement depends on weather or not there is a "GOD.">>

jay..whether we believe..in god[or not]...there is greater/..
there is yet greater..[and lesser]..than us
what are men..in relation/to say..the elements..or even/chance.

<..In the scheme of things we are but fleas..on a Proton of some Atom somewhere in something.>>

i get what/you are trying to say..but the living energies..of fleas
need the reliant..energy exchanges..[thus fleas..on a dinosaur]..or quarks of a photon

[see the holy spirit=energy..that includes everything
[but god..is a living concept/applicable..only to life/living]..where we see life..[love logic/light]..there is god..that living is of god..EVERything=holy spirit.[we are allowed our beliefs..the concept..is broad]

our earthly..god..is the sun[one day..it realized into sunship
and with focused will..dared utter those immortal..words..we all in..time may utter..[let there be light]..and behold..the light didst sustain...life/living..via logic..that in time life evolve love..and more let there be lights [see the heavens]

<<..Maybe that is what "GOD" is,>>
god[to me]..is a strange all inclusive word..that includes all them strange things/our parents couldnt even conceive[but god..is you]

what your missing is that there are infinite/gods
yet all gods collectively..=the holy omnipresent spirit

the holy spirit=1

<<..or..maybe that "GOD" is but a flea on another Proton
on another Atom, ad infinite. Fractually speaking. x(x+1),..>>

x=x
x+1=..not x

god..[our earthy/sun]..for all intents purpose=our god
[let x=god]
she emits a gamma burst..and life dies..she sends her light/life lives..she has her period..and we get a solar maxim/whether events etc

the sun..emits her light[its not her light..but the holy spirits light..[the holy spirit=[E]..energy..energy..=mass..[mass times the speed of light/times the speed of light]..or e=mc2..as science puts it

x+1=..not x

god..[our earthy/sun]..[the universe= the plus 1]

in time you too..shall become a sun..of the sun]
[herself a sun...of the fathers holy spirit/de'light

just as many even today..are sons..of the sun[sun=our god]..for all intents purpose life begat..from..the formation..of the sun-vortex
sorting the earthy matter..into her solar swystem=our god

[let x=the wholy spirit
=the mass/potential/energy..of material universe
[plus the other 9 realms=x]

the sun..[of e]..emits his light..via our sun
in/that process consumes he her/changes here state
her emitted/radiated photons etc..=our light[in its many spectrum's..each sustaining alternate states of life..in the other realms

[its not her light=life..but the holy spirits light/logic/love/life..
[the holy spirit=[E]..energy..energy..=ALL/mass..[mass times the speed of light/times the speed of light]..or e=mc2..as science puts it

its still only a start..in mans comprehension
it begins with a simple concept..like e..that become me..that is revealed to be its inversion..we..that wee = the logic/love truth..of he in me..falsifiable only by realization..of the other of he=me=we

ME
WE

one holy spirit
many sons of the father

the harder/my guides push..t get it out
the harder the forces resist..please read..through the push back/karmic/blow back]

i will try again..[knowing the push back..will be proportionately/harder]..but i must do..that i must see done

everything..in..its oneness..in..its completed/totality=potentate/of [E]

[just..to get this far..there have..been 5 inversions..of the words]

so i will correct previous post errors..[the harder i push it/the harder the instant/karma pushes back]..lord let this hell be over.

if the holy spirit=x
x+1=..is the wholly..of holy..1

that we think..of as god..=is=..our earthy/sun..
[the universe=plus...the other 9..created..the plus 1][plus 1]

in time you too..shall become a sun..of the holy spirit..just like
e the sun/of the light..[herself a sun...of the fathers holy spirit/..de'light

just as many even today..are sons..of the sun[sun=our god]..
for all intents purpose life begot..from..the formation..of the sun-vortex...sorting the earthy matter..into her solar system/planets..etc=our creator/god

[let x=the wholly spirit
=the mass/potential/energy..of material universe
[plus the other 9 realms=x][except/let..9=11]

the suns..[of e][the holy/spirit..as opposedd to him/wholy spirit....as opposed to she..who emits his light..via our sun

she of absolute self sacrificing..in/that process consumes he her/changes here state/her emitted/radiated photons/radon's/protons etc..=our light..[in its many spectrum's..with each sustaining alternate states of life..in the other realms

[its not her light=life..
but the holy spirits light/logic/love/life..
[the holy spirit=[E]..energy..energy..=..ALL/mass/plus all potential..[potentate mass..[mass times the speed of light/times the speed of light]..or e=mc2..as science puts it

its still only a start..in mans comprehension
it begins with a simple concept..like e..that become me..[i am].
that is revealed..to be its inversion..we..that wee = the logic/love truth..of he in me..

falsifiable only by realization..of
the other of he=me=we

ME
=
WE

one wholly holy spirit
many sons of the father
and along with he..we are 1

Nightmare, you have certainly out done yourself this time.

by the way, x(x+1)=x. See, Mandelbrot & Julia Sets. What I was eluding to is that it does not matter which way you go , it's all a repartition.

an' fo' God sake take your pills.

Dear Jayb,

Your approach to God seems to be a variant of qualified-monism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishishtadvaita). In other words, the drop-of-water and the ocean are the same because they have the same qualities, yet the ocean is bigger. Some Christians also take this approach, on the premise that man is made "in the image of God" (yet a miniature image).

Most people as they start on the path of religion, initially benefit from worshipping God as different than themselves, because for most, it's too abstract, thus useless, to shake-off the idea of oneself being (unlike God) limited, weak and a sinner. Philosophically, this approach doesn't stand a chance, it's full of paradoxes and has become the laughing-stock of atheists ("Can God create a-stone-so-heavy-that-He-cannot-lift?"), but it has some practical advantages.

The approach of qualified-monism is intermediate, more advanced than dualism: now me and God are similar in nature, now there's a chance to kind-of-unite with God (by the drop of water reaching the ocean): while one no longer identifies themselves as a sinner, one still seems to be limited in capacity. Some philosophical paradoxes still remain, as you mentioned yourself.

The highest religious approach is of monism, or non-dualism, where it is understood that there is no difference whatsoever, in fact complete identity, between the individual-self (or soul) and the universal-self (or God). While philosophically only non-duality resolves all paradoxes about God, only few are actually able to practice at this level: most would be perplexed at the idea of "what? worship myself?", while others might attempt to do so, but worship false-ideas of themselves instead.

<<Of course that statement depends on weather or not there is a "GOD.">>

Thinking of God as either separate or bigger than yourself, while an extremely useful religious practice, would be silly if meant as an objective statement.

When an atheist does charity without expectations, they undermine their ego, which is just what religion is supposed to be doing. Once ego is gone, they too realise their true identity as God. Forget then about the name 'God': that YOU ARE is undeniable.