This is the most brilliant Christmas Carol because of this truth:
""GOD and sinners reconciled"".
2 New Commandments: Love God (first) then Love others ( we can only truly love others if we love God first and understand how much He loved us-unto death).
All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God UNTIL they once again come to the Father through the Son (Jesus)

""Hark the Herald Angel Sing Glory to the New Born KING.""
Peace on earth and mercy mild ….""God and sinners reconciled"" NB Peace on earth is about Peace in our hearts towards God and just who He is. Jesus came so that we may be reconciled to God the Father. When we are reconciled to God (personally and individually) This new attitude to God gives us peace in our heart and then and only then can we have peace with others. The purpose of life is to have PEACE with God (first) then and only then will man will be able to have peace with one another.
Those seeking so desperately to come to Australia are not coming because Australia is secular. in other parts of the world Australia is seen as Christian so that is why they risk their lives to come here. Christians from all over the world -Yes you are very welcome here. Australia is a Mission field.
He is real and He is alive… He rose from the dead (remember) 500-600 people saw Jesus after He rose from the grave, so where is he now? Alive and Risen - At the right hand of the Father interceding for believers. But Jesus sent His Holy Spirit to every believer. How awesome is this :-)
Peace be with you all, (by the mercy and grace of God) Glory to God

No Jayb

God is the judge - I will not be cutting your head off. It is not my place to judge. My Lord assures me that I do not have to go there with anybody.

Jesus motivation is Always Love, Love of people. Christian Love the God who loved them. Grace and more grace and that motivates them to love others.

Grace is the total opposite of works. When do you know you have done enough works to keep God happy-never :-( ?
However the Good News is: I know God loves me as I am - a sinner. B U T now I am a saved sinner, i know i don't have to work my way to get to heaven. i am A S S U R E D of my place in heaven because of what
J E S U S did. That is why it is not about me-it is about what Jesus did for me. He took my place.
Now i am free from Works of good service and can do by grace the works i choose to do and am really good at. thanks and praise to God alone. Amen

Last post for today :-)

jay's/quote..<<..I find there is, in reality, no difference between The Canary, OUG & the Taliban.>>

thats sad..in/light of the fact..i..just had the previous post..deleted..so im on notice..[let the which hunt..begin?]

anyhow i learned..who..'freddy/kruger'..is
so i cant be impolite..to pinto[pro]..any more

BUT..mate..in..light of my possibly being killed tomorrow..I/MUST..CORREcT your slur..

if simple reply..kills my id..so/be it

<<..I'm sure they..are all good charitable..people in their own right,..but if allowed to,..would equally cut a disbelievers head off.>>

I DEMAND PROOF*
*i cannot allow these SLURS..to stand
prove it or with draw the statement..

thats not what i feel/nor believe[if anyone is to die..
I PRAY*..to the father..it be me.[thats not..a.. death wish]

<<..Just looking at past History.>>

CITATION..NEEDED

<<>.Yutsy:..Your claim is that
only Christians can have knowledge of Right & Wrong,>>

you of course..are correct*

<<..so they give to Charities
because it's the Godly thing to do.>>

OF CURSE NOT..giving to religion..GIVES '.you/us' a TAX deduction
the rich..chose who/gets their bailout..[the poor will just get a BAIL-in[cause govt..plunders the wages as we earn..it..[yet we dont have wage tax..[only income tax]..

*income..ISNT WAGE*

<<..The "Fear of God"..drives most Religious people.>>

rubbish
WHO FEAR's..ETERNAL-LOVE?
what fool fears..grace/mercy/life/love/light/logic?

if you must mis-judge me..at least read what i say

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#177801

<<..The reason for the Inquisition..& Muslim Terrorists.>>

is oil..war booty/profiteering/colonization[gold recovery]
its capitalists..LOVING infinite amounts of us cash/credit/l;icence..to/fight ETERNAL/war..

[well no more]..not one penny.of my cash goes to..govt/war

god=peace
life..not pieces

those so called..suicide bombers are OFTEn..retarded
widowed..or..blackmailed

<<>.as there is no God .so there is nothing to fear.>>

BECAUSE THERE IS..A GOOD GOD/LIVING
LOVING god/there is nothing to fear*

jesus is but..a thought away..ask..IN..HIS NAME ..and even demonic l;looking aliens..just fade away

<<..We use the built in Right..&
Wrong to decide what Charitable actions to take.>>

if we only see..the "charity"
was it also..your tax deduction?

*if govt is paying..it for you..its NOT charity

<<..Now here's a question...Widow.>>..

now hear..your answer..if govt allows..20 ex soldiers to die..
*BY THEIR OWN HAND*..every*day..are they war widows TOO?

Dear Jayb,

<<Your claim is that only Christians can have knowledge of Right & Wrong>>

Please don't put words in my mouth: I never said anything like that (and BTW, I'm not even Christian).

<<so they give to Charities because it's the Godly thing to do.>>

Giving charity without any expectation of reward is indeed a Godly thing to do, but you don't need to be a Christian for that and you don't even need to believe in God: atheists too can become Godly through charity.

<<The "Fear of God" drives most Religious people.>>

It only drives some beginners on the religious path and it can only take them that far. To progress further, one must learn to love God rather than fear Him - with all one's heart, with all one's soul and with all one's capacity.

<<but if allowed to, would equally cut a disbelievers head off.>>

Actually not a bad idea: cut the head off, give it a good clean, then put it back in place nice and tidy. While belief in God is not required, the problem is in what fills the head instead...

<<Would you donate to the Taliban Widows Fund?>>

No.

<<I find there is, in reality, no difference between The Canary, OUG & the Taliban.>>

Indeed, this is what happens when Politically-Correct humanists consider 'discrimination' a dirty word.

I like this article.

Re the comment above about Christian organizations ripping off people to enjoy a first class lifestyle rather than allocate a decent proportion of the donations to the nominated cause: there was a survey published recently where, yes, there were mixed results from Christian and secular aid organizations.

The survey cited World Vision (one of Australia's largest Christian agencies) setting a 'gold standard' in this area: 11% on expenses, the rest to the nominated cause...

The inference that Christians must not only be 'good' but be *seen* to be good is a fair comment.

Rowland Crouche

ka-cheee crack, OUG! back on ya box.

Ka-cheee crack, CinC! Back on ya box.

RC: The survey cited World Vision (one of Australia's largest Christian agencies) setting a 'gold standard' in this area: 11% on expenses, the rest to the nominated cause...

Yes I have the same clipping, I keep it handy for "Door knockers" but I can't find it at the moment. Good one.

Well Yutsy I'd send to your box too but I actually, under all that bravado, suspect, form past posts elsewhere on OLO, you have a few brains. I suspect you have come back with overstatement in defence, which is nothing an unusual.

I actually suspect that people give, in door knock campaigns because they feel pressured at the time, "I have to give something I suppose, otherwise I'll look like a cheapskate." Other people are looking to buy their way into heaven with bequests. Not everybody is like that, of course. As you say, people donate because it's the Christian thing to do. Like people feeding the Buddhist Monks every morning. Or Muslims looking after Widows, oh, wait a minute, Widows get raped & starve to death unless your husband was a martyr. Or in one of the many Refugee Camps who are mainly looked after by Christian & other non Religious Groups. I see The Saudies have just given $6b in Charity Arms to the Lebanese Army in their fight against the Rebels. Long range rockets? (? Israel, I wonder.) I wonder how much Charity they gave to the Refugee Camps.

Yutsy: Please don't put words in my mouth: I never said anything like that (and BTW, I'm not even Christian).

Aarr, true, on looking back. Sorry, but the intimation is there.