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Appointment of Mr Tim Wilson as Human Rights Commissioner : Comments

By Sev Ozdowski, published 23/12/2013

During the six years of Labor government various new positions were created on the AHRC. The budget was significantly increased but the government did not manage to find time to appoint a new commissioner.

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Hopefully we will see a balance with Tim Wilson - rights for everyone to believe and say what they think, and not just the absurd parody we have suffered with socialist-appointed stooges, interested only minorities and weirdo left fascism 'ideals'.
Posted by NeverTrustPoliticians, Monday, 23 December 2013 8:31:50 AM
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I know absolutely nothing of Tim Wilson but the criticism seems itself
to be a denial of human rights.

If the commission are all singing from the same hymnbook then I would
suggest that a number of its members need replacing.
It is a matter of historical fact that left governments have always
led to oppressive governments.
Has anyone ever heard of a fully democratic left wing government ?
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 23 December 2013 9:30:16 AM
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I meant to add;

It seems that the vociferous left always knows better than the rest of us.
AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT !
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 23 December 2013 9:33:03 AM
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Bazz,
Nope,model "democracy" Sweden doesn't even have a free press or freedom of speech.
Anything which contradicts the myth of equality is categorised as "hate" and immediately woven by the opinion shapers into the narrative of 20th century political extremism, they literally drag everyone back to the 1930's every time the dogmas of formal equality are questioned.
The author's points are well and good but the people who shape opinion in this country (who are not all Leftists BTW) paint every attempt at dissent as a precursor to acts of violence and when in doubt they simply make up stories that seem to fit the narrative.

Here's one recent example of how dissent is portrayed (or created out of whole cloth) in the capitalist media:
How the press sets up a protest crackdown:
http://newmatilda.com/2013/12/19/how-press-sets-protest-crackdown
Further examples from the U.K of the way opinion shapers distort stories to fit their world view.
The half-truths and wild claims of the Brixton slave story
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the_half_truths_and_wild_claims_behind_the_brixton_slave_story/14348#.Urd-D_YhY7S
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 23 December 2013 10:17:37 AM
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Why would the HRC attend the trial of the serial racist liar Andrew Bolt?

SEv, you lost all credibility when you announced we should traffic humans to Manus Island.
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Monday, 23 December 2013 1:05:18 PM
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Aaahhh, yes there is one !
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 23 December 2013 1:12:06 PM
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Marliyn Andrew Bolt is just a right wing Anti Racist, he's an egalitarian extremist just like you, both leftists and right wingers agree on racial assimilation and at the end of the day both sides are equally willing to use force in pursuit of their aims.
Look at the alternative proposals, zero net immigration is a non violent measure, abolishing the human rights industry and special rights and privileges for groups based on race or national origin is also a non violent measure.
There's no such thing as a good candidate for the HREOC, it's always going to be biased toward unsustainable Third World immigration, silencing dissent against multiculturalism and above all carrying out it's primary mission of protecting the economic interests and elite status of the Jewish minority.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 23 December 2013 1:54:45 PM
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Thank heavens for OLO, it gives a platform for this very thoughtful and balanced article by Sev.

AND ("the serial racist liar Andrew Bolt" and "carrying out it's primary mission of protecting the economic interests and elite status of the Jewish minority.") it also provides a free speech platform for the 'sicko haters' as well. Three cheers for OLO.
Posted by Prompete, Monday, 23 December 2013 2:13:38 PM
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To answer Marilyn's question, because supporting free speech of a journalist commenting upon a social issue in a newspaper is what the $300,000 p.a. Human Rights commissioners are paid to do.

The fact that they were missing in action during the Bolt trial supports the reasonable assumption that they are only interested in supporting the Human Rights of criminals, terrorists, illegal immigrants, and homosexuals.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 23 December 2013 2:19:19 PM
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Ahhh Marilyn

Are you angry because Tony is in fact stopping the boats or are you just angry.

It is pretty tedious now and you really are hurting yourself.
Be gentle Marilyn.
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 23 December 2013 2:46:00 PM
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when someone is appointed that defends the human rights of the unborn then we will know the position is worthwhile. Up until then we know its all just nonsense.
Posted by runner, Monday, 23 December 2013 2:50:52 PM
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Prompete, Yes I'm trolling but whether my statement is true or not you'll agree that it's a good tactic to use in illustrating the way any mention of the "J-word" in a sentence that doesn't sing their praises will strike fear into the hearts of White Liberals.
White Liberals are just as intimidated by the people beginning with J and the people beginning with M as non Liberals because we all understand that we have no protection under the law from predatory or particularly litigious ethnic associations and individuals.
Do you realise that if I was known to have written material online disparaging the Holocaust dogma or multiculturalism I would be immediately arrested if I tried to enter the EU? In this country I could also be jailed for five years and lose all my assets simply for saying or writing certain words.
As I said in another thread, don't assume there are good intentions behind human rights laws because as they've developed they've become more oppressive in their tone and their enforcement has only become more violent. After all in 2013 drone strikes and state sanctioned assassinations are all covered by the human rights umbrella, Hellfire missiles continue to rain down across the Islamic world so that Malala and her sisters can go to school ;)
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 23 December 2013 3:08:17 PM
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' it also provides a free speech platform for the 'sicko haters' as well. '

yep if its not Bolt then its Abbott. I would of thought the left would defend its right to hate to the max. You can't fight human nature.
Posted by runner, Monday, 23 December 2013 3:29:22 PM
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How would anyone know if the boats have stopped, the Australian government has ceased releasing any information, on the arrival of Asylum seekers by boats.
It will be interesting to hear from the new head for Australian "Human Rights", on the conditions asylum seekers live under and the lack of medical care.
Though very much doubt the "Brandis Boy" will be saying anything.
Posted by Kipp, Monday, 23 December 2013 3:34:02 PM
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C'mon everyone, lighten up. Every government rewards their cronies and stooges with mega-buck appointments that have no rational justification except as jobs-for-the-boys. Think "ambassador" for a moment - or even "Governor General" - and it is just another sink-hole for our tax dollars.

Can anyone provide a logical justification, for example, for the appointment of Ms Mirabella to the Board of the ASC? A deep understanding of boatbuilding, perhaps? A long and well-respected background in industry, maybe?

Nah.

Jobs for the boys.

On our dime, as the Americans so succinctly put it.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 23 December 2013 5:05:12 PM
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Kipp it's swings and roundabouts, Labor leaked like a sieve on operational matters and quite effectively covered up the serious crimes and general nuisance to the community caused by the overwhelmingly male boat arrivals once they are released. The coalition is maintaining radio silence on their border protection operations and revealing more about just what a problem these men on bridging visas are becoming for the people who are forced live around them.
But what would you rather know first?
How many men arrived at Christmas Island by boat in a given week or how many were being investigated on the mainland for crimes such as rape,murder, theft and drug offences?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 23 December 2013 8:10:10 PM
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You are never going to know that JOM. In 1993, the ethnic leaders of several well known crime prone ethnic and religious groups successfully lobbied the Federal Labor government to prevent the Australian Bureau of Statistics from compiling statistics, or analysing statistics, related to ethnic crime.

This results in a Catch 22 situation. Multiculturalists angrily deny that ethnic related crime is a problem and demand that their opponents provide proof that it exists. But it is the multiculturalists themselves who have succeeded in suppressing this information.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 5:33:43 AM
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'Too many of the supporters of those appointees fail to recognise that organisations like the Institute of Public Affairs, or people who share non-Labor outlooks, are a legitimate part of our civil society, entitled to participate fully in the political processes'.

Yes, this is a key point lost on many in the humanities.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 7:08:37 AM
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Chris, your comment is too mild.
It is not that the left fails to recognise the right's participation
it is that they oppose their participation.
It is an attempt to deny participation.

Their attack on Andrew Bolt here in this thread shows that.
I went to the trouble to read the judgement and he was not convicted
of racism at all. He was convicted because he offended someone who it
was suggested could pass if they wished as Caucasian.
He also made a mistake, if I remember correctly of mistaking a
grandfather fora great grandfather.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 8:21:55 AM
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Is a Bill of Rights on the Abbott government's agenda ? I didn't know that.

Most of the comment on Tim Wilson's appointment seems to be the manner of the appointment. Are all appointments to the AHRC by invitation from the incumbent government?

Sorry to load up with questions but your article does prompt them: have a lovely Christmas you'all.
Posted by wantok, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 3:08:55 PM
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Good article Sev and congratulations to Tim Wilson on your appointment. My own thoughts may be easily classified as right wing but I prefer to think of them as rational pragmatic. May I suggest that the AHRC should be disbanded altogether or at least the present members sacked (excluding Tim who is too new to have caused damage). Nicola Roxon and the AHRC under Gillian Triggs have in my opinion done more to damage free speech in this nation than anybody else I can recall. Hopefully this will be how history records their stewardship. Whoever said that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance definitely got it right. Australia needs a lot more freedom of speech and opinion and a vast amount less of political correctness. I have also observed that those who claim they are protecting my freedoms are usually the ones taking them away at a great rate. I hope Tim Wilson is up to the task.
Posted by Pliny of Perth, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 3:19:20 PM
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Kipp
That's another of the lefties lies.
The government releases the info on boat arrivals every Fri as requested by our military, ie the Officiers charged with cleaning up Labors mess.
So far there has been a 90% reduction in numbers, according to our military.
Posted by imajulianutter, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 4:20:20 PM
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This is a wonderful article by Mr Ozdowski, and I also congratulate Tim Wilson.

Europe at present is facing the terrible crisis of the rise of Islam. Although many people have raised the issue, perhaps now they are even in the majority, their warnings have mostly been ignored amid cries of Islamaphobia, and the desire not to offend. Political Correctness, and Multiculturism may well lead us into another century of war, a European civil war, the likes of which we have never seen.

Nicola Roxon and the AHRC would have silenced Copernicus, and Churchill, just as they were complicit in the silencing of Geert Wilders when he was in Australia.

Perhaps we are wrong, and despite all the evidence that the great majority of the current world conflicts involve Islam, the religion of smack-your-wife is gentle and peace loving.

Oh, if only LEGO and Pliny-of-Perth could publish leading articles in our major newspapers!
Posted by Beaucoupbob, Wednesday, 25 December 2013 10:36:35 AM
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I see a strong similarity between Islam and the National Socialist Party.

Both are antidemocratic
Both have a book Mien Kampf & the Koran
Both wear a distinctive uniform.
Islam wants to conquer the world Nazis wanted Lebensraum.
Islam threatens death to unbelievers and Nazis run gas chambers.
Both use fifth columns.
Before obtaining power both run terrorist campaigns, 9/11 & Crystalnacht.
Both have a disdain for human rights.

Any further suggestions ?
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 25 December 2013 9:39:56 PM
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J of M. "White Liberals are just as intimidated by the people beginning with J and the people beginning with M as non Liberals because we all understand that we have no protection under the law from predatory or particularly litigious ethnic associations and individuals.". Hmmm.. Still thinking on that one, take your point with respect to some aspects of this comment.
Posted by Prompete, Thursday, 26 December 2013 6:05:28 AM
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Beaucoupbob. Well said that man! I am with Wantok with regard to the questions posed. Whilst the 'politics' is evident as identified by Imajulianutter, Bazz and others, this is, I feel, just the beginning of the fundamental 'game on' for the culture wars essential to our democracy and freedoms.

That Jillian Triggs 'opens' with a whinge about the salary drawn by Tim and the need to cut some nanny program, one could draw the conclusion that it is 15/love in the first week.

The Left are without a moral framework when hypocrisy is factored in.
Posted by Prompete, Thursday, 26 December 2013 6:25:59 AM
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The questions I pose;
Are the human rights organisations Quislings ?
Where will they stand when push comes to shove ?
Do the Human Rights organisations recognise the Cairo Declaration of
Human Rights as well as the United Nations Declaration of Human rights ?
That last is a very serious question and I have never heard it asked.
In the event of a war between Islam and the UN/"West" where will they stand ?

Looked at in the sweep of history it seems very likely a war will break
out over energy and food. Will Islamic armies enter Europe "to protect"
Moslems, a la The Sudatenland ?
Who will be the "Hitler image" ?
Will an Indonesian/Malaysian Islamic army enter Australia "to protect Moslems" ?

Or is this something that not even Nostradamus would dream up ?
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 26 December 2013 2:06:38 PM
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A few more of these type of appointments, & retiring of some old ones, & we could actually end up with a Human Rights Commission that looked after the rights of all us worker ants.

It would be quite a change, if we actually got to have a say. Now the only people entitled to any rights, human or otherwise, are the lefty elite, like the current commissioners & their staff, & those they choose to label as underprivileged.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 26 December 2013 6:52:09 PM
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