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Does God require a special language? : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 12/8/2013

This conception, or denial of conception, has been carried by the Christian tradition into the present day. For example Karl Barth framed God as the 'wholly Other', the one who could not be found at the end of any human path.

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Dear Peter,

<<While I can preach to a congregation writing for the unchurched is especially difficult.>>

I suppose everyone receives their own different gifts, by the grace of God and the Holy Spirit.

But it's a pity because the absence of understanding your insights leaves the field exposed to bible-literalists and exoteric preachers who create wrong and hostile impressions about religion and about Christianity, who by fighting a losing-battle with science misrepresent religion and bring it to ridicule as if it competes with science about understanding the inner-working of the material world and with technology for material gains.

I think that public mentality is averse to the faith as a result of such irresponsible or incompetent misrepresentations: I hope someone can come and correct those.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 16 August 2013 1:31:52 AM
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Yuyutsu,
I don't know if you're referring to me, but I certainly don't have a hostile view of Christianity or faith generally. I despise elitists and rent-seekers of all kinds though.

As I mentioned earlier, I attended Brisbane's premier Anglican school. The experience caused me to reject any role for religious faith for over 30 years. It was a cold, isolating, violent, inhuman place. When I went there it had 52 acres of some of the best land in Brisbane, with at least 30 of that given over to sporting fields, swimming pools, tennis courts and the like. It has since expanded to take up a further 5 or more acres, which are filled with monumentalist structures to the glory of their donors and the tax money that was spent on them. I'm guessing, but the value of that school would have to be at least $500million, probably more. Everything is state of the art, every building double brick pseudo-gothic revival, paths are paved in brick, not sheathed with asphalt or (horrors) dirt.

Confirmation of the boys is not the duty of a humble local minister, the Archbishop comes in pomp (it used to be Hollingsworth, until he tripped over his G-G robes) and Government Ministers and judges sit behind the altar.

Right now there are 125 uninsured homes in the Wide Bay region that are still unliveable after the floods in summer. The Salvation Army has a contract to fix them using volunteers because QBuild has no resources. They have started on 7. The State Government (Tim Mander, the evangelical ex-referee govt Minister) has promised $15000 per home. As far as I know, the Federal Govt is giving nothing.

That's $1875000. It wouldn't pay the Council rates for half that school...
Posted by Antiseptic, Friday, 16 August 2013 5:28:04 AM
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peter has a secret
use big words..then you can lord it over the ignorant
ride the high life..with the elite..[and the poor..let them eat stale crumbs]

falling..like dandruff..from the body of christ'0..
the holy sacrament crumbs/with only the best cask wine
/watered down of course..cause the poor..dont deserve the pure unadulterated life blood..of the christ..

stillthats a blessing of sorts
by hisd behaviour its clear the poor old dear..peter
dont get christ at all..thus he can deceive only his elite mates

its sad how satan..lies
embedded in the midst of the church

demons drink blood..demons eat flesh
if you cant do as jesus does..why copy that only demons do
but peter..is like a rock..just doing the ritual..serving demons creed

not the living christ..where peter would be the rock
but some death cult created by saul/paul..who too heard demons
turned the living christ into yet another faulse messiah...turnthe other cheek..or5 run away

yeah..though he lives..in the valley..of fear
he dont fear no evil..because his works give nurture to vile..GOD is NOT only in high sounding words/creed rite.,.but inthe wurks of demons..as much as saint

think how a demon church would
decorate its hut..with dead corpses

use/imagry..flesh/blood/gore..of its victories over 'good'
like a curtain of living eyes of the dammed././bones of saintly..for their cauldron/alter..dripping with its sacrosanct/life blood.

god dfidnt require nuthin..get it peter
he would like it oif we did as christ did
but if you love satan..thats ok too..

UNTIL YOU DECEIVE ONE INNOCENT..
away from him..all loving/all mercy-full..
who are sure god forgives..know it..seen it/lived it

but what about others
equally sure of his mercy..who dont like deceivers..
or those THINKing..[thin-KING*}..big-words..lol..as being equal..lol..to big works..

to mean anything
but adult*eration..[adultery]
of the simple words..our savior spake.,.clearly

love god..[creator]
via love of other...[creation]

recall the law re adulteration
your doing it..yet cant see it
Posted by one under god, Friday, 16 August 2013 7:06:36 AM
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postscript

the peter[see above]
refers to the original peter/..pappa

please pass the missive onto the first pappa..elder

if you do this small thing
i thank-you..

our peter
sell it

pps
please use huge words
loudly

the saintly prepare the harvest
on high

144,000..like him /thee?..[the other peter]
..leave shortly..as the realms shift

and this materialist earth
becomes part of lower hell

heaven help those saved*
who return..only their own saving
for thee knew our master to be a hard master

ye that saved many
more shall be given
Posted by one under god, Friday, 16 August 2013 7:40:59 AM
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Antiseptic
We have something in common! I went to an Anglican school and the experience turned me into an atheists, in fact it turned me into an angry rationalist who was bent on doing the only thing that made sense: Science.

I would me much readier to engage with you if you were not so prickly. Take your opening sentence in your last post as an example.
Posted by Sells, Friday, 16 August 2013 9:42:00 AM
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Dear Antiseptic,

No, I was not referring to you, I was referring to Peter's general statement that "I think that there has never been a time in which the public mentality is so averse to the faith".

As for your criticism, I can identify with aspects of it, with others not, but going into details would take us straight off-topic: the behaviour of organisations that call themselves 'religious' has nothing to do with religion.

Unfortunately, faith does suffer as a result of the common ignorant belief as if those two are related.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 16 August 2013 11:27:17 AM
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