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By Peter Sellick, published 12/8/2013This conception, or denial of conception, has been carried by the Christian tradition into the present day. For example Karl Barth framed God as the 'wholly Other', the one who could not be found at the end of any human path.
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Posted by David G, Monday, 12 August 2013 10:02:10 AM
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http://www.google.com.au/search?q=the+science+god+particle http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/03/14/174287416/god-particle-update-scientists-think-theyve-pinned-down-the-higgs-boson http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-collider/9929535/Higgs-boson-scientists-confident-they-have-discovered-the-God-particle.html http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57574247/scientists-say-theyve-found-a-god-particle/&sa=U&ei=LycIUr63EYXAiQe69IHgBw&ved=0CCIQtwIwAg&sig2=-8rs8feiFjACqyxCSfDaWw&usg=AFQjCNEYCyNkzZr41aGruXcufYCUb5DVHg see the light http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtZz3yvclKR84rB8FuUwUZE-fuqZmWXTgkhHegThqgftDLFcWW_X36nv9N do mathematicians..need to know formula? if we all were given..the math..would it be proof positive..[indisputable] the bible is a tricky read eg the so called mirror-calls[miracles].. wernt miraculous..at the time [ie feeding 4000/5000 all they wanted.. means none wanted to eat..[ie eating..in those days *needed..*clean hands/recall the shewbread handwash jars/the canna weeding [recall his deciples..didnt know thus ignorantly..'saw miracles..].. ditto the handwash jars at canna wedding.. [jesus said..i dont do miracles/..not my time in fact i couldnt careless..if you fed them from the utterly UNCLEAN*...handwash jars.. [would YOU*..drink..even the *best wine..FROM A TOILet? neither did the guests] thus the servants.,.did serve the masters BEST wine.. rather than loose their upstairs position.. if our master looses face..so do we as no handwash jars were present..on the mount[ie the shewbread.. where christ said..I TS NOT THAT A MAN PUTS INTO HIS MOUTH, which makes him unclean..BUT THAT WHICH ISSUES FORTH..from* it* and so it has all-ways been* welcome to satans realm..you will be tempted/tested/tried tribulation-ed..right here so when we sort the wheat..from the chaff the chaff sinks by the tares [weight]..of their own dark sins the deceivers stole the good of god from god yet he still loves them..so i dont have to*.. sure that enjoins me to go to hell.. but even there god doeth dwell. .still doing his god/good..loving the rejected poor sick..and *those choosing..to dwell..in hell Posted by one under god, Monday, 12 August 2013 10:32:27 AM
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Dear Jon,
I like your account of Pickwickian: it's the language of love. Suppose you call your sweetheart 'Honey Bunny', sure you wouldn't feel the same if you saw in front of you an actual full-sized bunny made of honey! So as we love God, we may say for example, theologically, that if He had a body, then it would be bigger than the whole world, that if He had a mind then it would know all, that if He had hands then He could do anything, etc. I say and mean 'Glory be to the Father' and some other guy may just think about his abusive parent: how prone to misunderstanding - some expressions of love should better be kept inside the bedroom. Dear Ozbib, <<What is falydbli? I can't say. Nothing I could say would about falydbi would be true.>> Sure, but if I added that there is nothing but Falydbi, including yourself, wouldn't that make a difference? <<There are minimal requirements on the concept of God for worship to make sense (and I'd add, to be morally acceptable). These include that God is good, in the ordinary sense of the word, and that he acts, in the ordinary sense of that word.>> As for making sense, a worship that makes sense is mere barter and attempting to cause God to act differently (on the assumption that he acts in the ordinary sense of the word) is bribery. Superior worship should therefore make no objective sense. As for moral acceptability, this assumes an external/independent source of morality, outside God. However, with all that science discovered so far, not a single particle of morality, or goodness, or even meaning, was ever found in the objective universe. I am not saying that 'God is good' - that indeed would be meaningless nonsense except in the language of love, which should be kept inside the bedroom. What I do have is a workable definition of 'good' which I found in psalm 92: "It is good to give thanks to the Lord, to make music to your name, o most high" Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 12 August 2013 11:11:43 AM
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Poor Sells, he keeps on regurgitating the same old tiresome, archaic bronze-age cultic nonsense year after year, after year, basically repeating the same nonsense every time.
One wonders which century Sells is living in. Especially as the entire contents of every known religious and Spiritual tradition are freely available to anyone with an internet connection. Which raises the question why does everything have to turn out to be Christian, especially the dim-witted infantile/childish version that Sells promotes. Perhaps a better question would be: who is qualified to talk about Truth, Reality, and The Beautiful too? And/or the esoteric dimensions of our existence-being? The set of references available at this site introduce some remarkable men and women who really knew via their REALIZATION what they were talking about. They had actually Realized something which the fear based left-brained verbal automatically shuts down. The left-brained Letter always kills the Living Spirit! http://www.beezone.com/ArticlesTradition.html http://www.beezone.com/verbal_mind.html The purpose of the Beezone is of course to promote the Life & Teaching of His Divine Presence Avatar Adi Da Samraj whose first book (now very much updated and expanded) is intoduced here: http://www.kneeoflistening.com/i1-spiritual-genius.html Further references which thoroughly deconstruct and outshine Sells dim-witted reductionist scribbling. http://www.dabase.org/up-1-1.htm http://www.beezone.com/AdiDa/jesusandme.html http://www.adidam.org/teaching/gnosticon/religion-scientism On the nature of Reality or Real God http://www.consciousnessitself.org http://www.adidam.org/teaching/aletheon/truth-god http://global.adidam.org/books/ancient-teachings.html Posted by Daffy Duck, Monday, 12 August 2013 11:41:44 AM
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suse.muse online/quote..<<I believe that back in ancient times, humans believed in gods like 'Mother Earth', who had a female form.
I think I like the sound of that one better....>> god of course..is all sexes..and all form/function a matriarchal mothering..good god must reign supreme i personaly speak..to the femail essence of god..in the love of service to other.. where as the love of patriarchal..[opposing/judgmental essence]..being that of the material father.. both terms though would be mute*..in reference to he/her of most holly omnipresent living spirit..all pervading..all sustaining materially father..bears the life ..[living sperm] 'that finds nurture with in the matriarchal egg' just as the father/sun*..lights the fertile mother earth..to birth life. god is so simple children know him better but this being the deceivers realm..we soon grow suss then we die..and realise the kids got it right..think of the lover..as loving us like its anagramatic namesake a large puppy[dog] that sees the real you..of pure love and forgives us..the little sins..knowing the true you*..shines through..in the end Posted by one under god, Monday, 12 August 2013 1:55:33 PM
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Lucy Van Pelt: Aren't the clouds beautiful? They look like big balls of cotton. I could just lie here all day and watch them drift by. If you use your imagination, you can see lots of things in the cloud's formations. What do you think you see, Linus?
Linus Van Pelt: Well, those clouds up there look to me look like the map of the British Honduras on the Caribbean. [points up] Linus Van Pelt: That cloud up there looks a little like the profile of Thomas Eakins, the famous painter and sculptor. And that group of clouds over there... [points] Linus Van Pelt: ...gives me the impression of the Stoning of Stephen. I can see the Apostle Paul standing there to one side. Lucy Van Pelt: Uh huh. That's very good. What do you see in the clouds, Charlie Brown? Charlie Brown: Well... I was going to say I saw a duckie and a horsie, but I changed my mind. Posted by Priscillian, Monday, 12 August 2013 2:44:23 PM
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I mean, when the nukes begin to fall, people who avoided being vaporized will probably say loudly, "Jesus Christ! God save us! The Lord is My Shepherd...! Our Father which art in heaven!" etc. There won't be time to consider a special language.
Of course, not everyone will say the above. There will be those who curse God for making humans so evil, so cruel, so greedy. I won't commit to paper how they might express themselves as they watch their children die before their eyes and their homes burn and a wasteland is created before their very eyes.
And Sells, if he survives, will wander about calling out, "Come to me. Learn God's special language. Credit cards will be accepted!"