individual/quote..<<..The church
are nothing more than a 'don't do as we do, do as we say' cord.>>

one needs ask..which church..specifically*

[at last count..there were..millions of churches..in the aether realm
each has their own room..[but these usually are seen as building/villages/cities..called realm/planes]

eg the christ 'room'..spans from the highest
to the lowest realm's..often along the lines of creed
or common held mis-perceptions as much as..common held ..mis-conception

thus we see..many budda realms
many christ realm..many mahamoud realm's .etc
many atheist realms..many realms of sheep..many of goat

of truth..the reason..we have an expanding universe
is because the dwellers in hell..move ever further away
whereas in heaven..we draw ever closer

till..we yet again..
gain enlightenment..via the atonement[at one meant]

man is not meant..to be alone
neither..the wholly spirit

"It may surprise you but I do not write for the commentators of OLO."

Well, Sells, I hope that Graham, the publisher, is aware of this extraordinary position of yours. The commentators are the audience of OLO and, as such, should not be insulted by the likes of you!

Your admission also explains why you rarely bother to argue your case with the intelligent audience that, in the main, OLO attracts.

Why don't you take your box of religious tricks and duplicitous theo-babble and choose somewhere else to peddle your arrogant, one-eyed, misguided wares?

<<..derived from Aristotle,
that all things "are" in the same way>>

yes things are
and all are ..by virtue of being things....
the things..*being..are being[existing]..in the same way[ta0]

mean-ing..<and as such>>..by simply being of the same circumstance
things are being..thus<<they may be described by a common language;>>..inherent with all being..in that..<<there is a univocity of being.>>simply by letting it so be.

..<<..The argument is..that this broke with a tradition>>..EDITED..<<that it tended towards an objectification of God..that made Him an object among objects...or a subject among subjects>>

that is totally absurd
GOD IS CAUSE..of things..
as opposed to the things..god is allowing the many fold of THINGS to be.

..<<<...Barth framed God as the "wholly Other",>>

and yet he egsists
WITH-in..all..living things
ie..OMNIPRRESNT*..cause of causes
pure great good/love light sustaining life /living
via logic[logus]:..grace mercy service..love of other..

all sustained to live
via the one true wholly spirit cause

<<..the one who could not be found at the end of any human path.>>
because..he is with and within..*us all...all the time*
YET*..he is without [out]..side of us too

omnipresent*

<<<..The result is that God is protected from all human projections>>

yet to..hurt one
is to hurt HIM*..to serve other..is to servbe him

THAT WE DO TO THE LEAST..[think thing]
we do to the most..[thinkeverything]..ie primo cause..[god]..sustaing them their living..and everything..

[eve-wry thing]


<<so that faith could be free of idolatry.>>
god wants us to see our own greatness
by seeing his greatness IN other*

Antiseptic
I am amused that you think you understand something about the church. Very little of your observations coincide with any church I know. Perhaps you should go and check it out before you make such wild and incorrect pronouncements about what is wrong with it.

Thank you Peter,
I'm doing just that, as I said earlier. I also spent my childhood at the premier Anglican church school in Brisbane. That experience taught me that those who profess religiosity the loudest are often those who are least likely to behave in a Christlike manner. Your behaviour on this thread hasn't done anything to change that view.

Still, I'm pleased you're amused. It is my greatest pleasure in life to provide entertainment for those who consider themselves to be my betters. At least it means they can't be causing any harm while I'm doing it.

Christ was scathing of those who held themselves up as leaders while failing to demonstrate by their actions their own commitment to the things they demanded of their followers.

Looked in the mirror lately, old chap? Perhaps better not to...

Yuyutsu, our "divinity" is simply our best possible morality, surely? A truly divine being is perfectly moral.

Dear Antiseptic,

<<Yuyutsu, our "divinity" is simply our best possible morality, surely? A truly divine being is perfectly moral.>>

What I'm going to tell you can be dangerous when misunderstood, so please allow my message to be burned in 30 seconds:

The divine is not moral - there comes a time in our spiritual evolvement when even morality must be left behind, when it is no longer relevant.

HOWEVER, that time is not anywhere near for me and you, nor likely near for any of the people we know. For the stages most of us are in, morality is a crucial pre-condition for spiritual progress, so please erase the above.