Antiseptic/quote..<<..Far too much "knowledge" is pretence>>..

thats understood though
that way we can distance our selves..from our expressed fears
we need to know..thus must presume/project from the known..into the unknowable future-tense

pre-tense=the theory
[in its present sense]
ok..thats my pre-sense pretense

feigned gnosis..<<<and not examined properly
because nobody wants to admit they don't understand what it means.>>

i like to think..that means..
were more open to a preferd error..credit
rather than assured but unknown..discredit..debit

<<Semantics is not syntactics>>
peter must love that..adjective
me too..lol..sin-tactics..we amuse ourselves..at so many levels

so im glad you clarified

<<<..in other words,
meaning is separate from the form..of the words
and it is a two-way process..to ensure the meaning is properly understood*..at both ends of the discourse.>>

thats why i like simple word forms
that encompass..sure meaning....like love..includes love of hate
or that hate cantlove hayte cause hate excludes love

or maybe the simple surety of hot/cold..
as in absolute oppisite..

yet even here with a 'thiest'..v..'athiest'
their one and the same..each sure of its assuredness

<<..Sometimes meaning is altogether separate from the form,
as in metaphor or allusion, or in the way you like to pull words apart...>>

i have a simple..yet sinfull mind
just trying to find if the messiah../destroys..or comforts

the one thing i do feign to know
as an adjective..is god within us all

and i love watching us ourselves
having that clear good god moment..when we rise to our best
and the love light shines forth..from our very beastly huh?.man being

cheers

lets sellsibrate

peter said..<<..I find myself completely disinterested
in the current round of arguments..about the existence of..non-existence of God.>>

me in the pre-sent sense..
..i missed that
where can we join in?

i know..*god is real
yet religion corporations..are fake

[ie only 'persons'..under the act]..ie paper personhood
as opposed to a living mind spirit..driving this flesh body..to grow its soul.

<<..The arguments about the existence of God
are arguments about an abstraction.>>

god isnt abstract
he is in the active..not in dead opbsure secret or big word

yet words are sacred
SACRED*word=s*word

the pen is mightier than the word
but nor when the word itself..is sacred

<<..The real arguments are theological
and use theological language.>>

so what..i google words i dont grok

KEY BIT..<<This is the debate we have to have.>>

lets diss-cuss..i so hate a de-bait

<<..That may seem surprising for a clergyman, but there has been nothing new in these arguments for a few hundred years.>>

invent new words
find out what the word really means[put it back into its proper context]

SATAN'$ minions HAVE DONE..THIS VILE
VIA..*CHANGING WORDS MEANINGS!

<<Protagonists and agonists have been laboriously
going over the same ground and end up at the same dead end.>>...

ok peter
what same dead end?

peter said..<<..I find myself completely disinterested >>

and proved it
thanks anyhow peter

cheers
johannine

towards the end..of the page
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2909
that discourse went much further..with bigger words

god receives images..via our eyes
god receives sound..through our ears
what we taste..god tastes..what we smell..he doth 2

when we are happy..god is happy
when we cry..he feels the crying too
everything we do..or nature does..or.in thereby doing achieve..is an achievement of god/good..giving us is the great gifts only the living loving good can give..

that we chose to turn...good truth/light..
into darkness hurt betrayal..
is that..we did to god..

just by hurting each-other
we hurt the one

i was replying a topic..older going on for longer than this one
asking..<<..Is being a scientist compatible with believing in God?>
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0

thus clearly relative to this topic
re special gnosis or /big words
special language..

and linked to this yet older one
asking is god back?
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2909&page=0#66836

and realised we use big words
thinking the kidies dont comprehend us
or that demons wont grasp..what we are saying

in being precise we become exclusive
and then exclusive..us*.. verses..the all inclusive them*[other]

which begins an inevitable decay
delay..as we decay..next..the rot sets in

rot..just naturally leads to recluse
elude exclude delude..

but even those words
are too big ..for this little conversion conversation conducted by evasion

where doth the holy text say cut and run?
ignore the gore..

we enter-taint..entertain angels or demons too..
just by rejecting or accepting good or vile..unaware..as we dont judge neither angel nor demon..but thgeir fruits

hate the deed
not the being*

Under One God, you must surely be the least read commenter on OLO!

Your staccato, pseudo-poetic, bible-bashing ramblings are virtually unintelligible and, even with the best will, are difficult to make any sense of. I skip over your endless offerings and I'm sure many others do as well.

Why don't you try to write simply and without stilted affectation? Then people might actually get what you're on about!

Cheers.