misanthrope - Just rattling your chain to bring you back, there are a lot of comments directed to you that you were afraid to answer, could that be because you actually have not facts to back up what you say and are unable to dispute what others have said.

To quote you "It's you that talk all the garbage, because nobody believes in what you say." - Obviously mathematics was not your best subject, if you check there are only about 4 people on your side the rest are against or dispute what you say.

To quote you again "but by your comments and other remarks, you prove you know little about all the boat people" By yours you show a complete opposite view to the majority of Australians.

To quote you again "You have not personally faced any of these dangers confronted by these poor refugees." Do you mean the ones who pay thousands of dollars to jump the Queue? I wish I had $9,000 to spare.

Philip S you would be very surprised at what I know about wanting to escape a bad country where fear is with you every day of your life.
But i'm now very exhausted and I have other work I must now do. At least you don't abuse or threaten me like some who have done to me.

Misanthrope, you made a racist statement on page 3 where you said that you agreed "with people around the world who think that Aussies are just drunken racists."

Could you please explain why Australians should allow people like yourself to come to our country, who have contempt for Australians, and hold racist opinions about us, and presume to tell us how to run our own successful country? If the society which us "drunken racists" created is so racist and awful, please feel free to return to your own country where your own people are not drunken racists.

We Australians enjoy being lectured by people who fled their own failed societies, and who now want to tell us Australians who created a successful society what we are doing wrong.

I will repeat my post on page 4 which you dodged.

If your previous country had experienced the same level of legal and illegal immigration which Australia has experienced in the last 40 years, such that the population demographics in certain areas had changed so much that your own people were feeling like they were strangers in their own country. And, if some of the newly arrived groups had a very negative effect upon the safety of your own people that cherished rights were being eroded to counter surging criminal behaviour, riots, and even terrorism. And, the new arrivals were helping themselves to your increasingly insolvent and unsustainable welfare system.

Would your own people welcome them with open their arms? Or, as I suspect, your own people are no different to the "drunken, racist Australians" that you despise but want to live with, and they would be just as concerned about new arrival lobbing up in boats in their tens of thousands?

Do your own people have some sort of genetic aversion to racism which makes them a race genetically unique to us, or are they just like the "drunken, racist" Australians?

Dear LEGO,

Didn't any of your ancestors come on a boat to this
great nation of ours?
Most everybody else's did. You seem to overlook
that fact. And the Australians who have made this
country as great as it is have included people
from many places and cultures. You also seem to
forget that as well. Australians' interests are
far more complex than those who insist on seeing
all discussion through a fixed ideological
viewfinder.

When was it decided that all concerns, issues,
policies and pre-occupations of this country had to
be divided into either a left/right dogfight or a
"them" and "us" one?

I had always thought that Australians were rarely
vicious, spiteful, or dangerous. That we're just not
that angry a people. And, that we sit down and discuss
our problems and work them out as we've always done
in the past. Or do you believe that there are only
a certain select group of "real" Australians - and
everyone else who lives and works here is irelevant.
Especially those who linguistically and visibly
appear to be "different."

That would be very sad indeed.
I hope that this is not the case.

Hi Lexi.

Your premise appears to be, that since my ancestors came to Australia by boat, than anyone who wants to come to Australia should just come here and we should be happy about that. Australia is a sovereign nation, Lexi, and every sovereign nation has a border to control immigration. You may dream of an Aquarian world with no borders, but you are dreaming the Impossible Dream.

Identifying your opponents ideology in order to figure out where he is coming from, is critical to countering his arguments. Your premise that people need not divide into opposing and competing groups seems to mark you indelibly as another "world saver" who thinks that everyone is equally nice, it is just a few nasty people who make it bad for the majority.

This is like President Kennedy's applauded speech where he stressed the commonality of the human race. "We all want what is best for our children, we all breath the same air." But that famous picture of Muslim toddlers dressed as suicide bombers seems to dispel that Aquarian ideal. Human beings are tribal and territorial, Lexi. Any ideology which can not accept that, is going to fail. There is always going to be "them and us."

I am an Australian, and I have just as much right to define my cultural identity as an aborigine, a Zulu, or a Muslim. Wherever the North European people have gone in this world, Lexi. they have created successful and functioning societies which are the envy of the world. I have as much right to preserve my successful culture as an aborigine or a Muslim has to preserve their failed ones.

The non discriminatory immigration programs in all of the western world have been unmitigated social catastrophes for the Western world. The "racists" predicted that the importation of certain ethnicies and religions would result in spiralling crime rates, endemic ethnic welfare dependency, race riots, terrorism, ghettoisation, demands for separatism, and severe restrictions on our cherished civil liberties in order to combat these problems. And do you know what, Lexi? The racists were right all along

I see that Labor's border policy is killing people in greater numbers. Now they are looking for a second boat to sink in a week.

At this rate Labor is killing more illegal boat people in a week than Howard had come to Aus in a year.