SM,

You and your Party must actually come up with
more than inane slogans and rhetoric. Nobody
believes that you'll be able to "Stop The Boats,"
by sending them back to Indonesia. Your Pacific
Solution was briefly successful due to global
conditions at the time,
not due to any of your policies. Which
by the way cost the country a fortune, did
irreparable mental damage to people, including
women and children, and most of the asylum seekers
ended up being allowed to stay in Australia anyway.
So stop talking nonsense and simply repeating your party
mantra. I'm surprised you didn't bring
the carbon tax into it.

Dear LEGO,

As I stated earlier, I'm not advocating people smuggling
and of course border security is important. Illegally
staying in Australia is a problem, but under our law
asylum seekers are not illegal and they have every right
to ask for asylum and then be assessed by the proper
authorities. The real illegals are those who overstay
tourist visas and simply never leave, or people who lie
and come in on the wrong visa class, such as people who
come on student visas and work or run businesses.

I don't believe that we should demonise a boat load of
desperate people because of some of our suburban problems.
Not all boat people are Muslims and not all Muslims are
fundamentalists. I don't believe in tarring everyone in
any group with the same brush due to the actions of a few.
That does not allow for individual differences. We need
to take a closer look at what's causing some of our
problems. Drugs, crime, unemployment, lack of infrastructure
and adequate transport, and discrimination,
might all be things that
contribute to these complex issues.
Education would help,
scare mongering certainly does not.

Dear LEGO,

I forgot to add the following link that might
clarify a few things for you:

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/tragic-legacy-sievx-fatal-sinking-20091019-h38e.html

It may help confirm as the link points out that,
"asylum seekers arriving by boat are not a threat to
Australia, their numbers are insignificant, they are
not illegal and they usually make Australia a better
place as the Sievx survivors have done.

Shadow Minister,

You're blaming Labor for the recent asylum seeker
boats sinking is
shameful. Have you forgotten Tampa and Sievx?
Read the link I provided for LWGO. I might make you
realise that neither political party has something
to be proud of regarding the asylum seeker issue.

Lexi - asylum seekers are not illegal

maybe not, but economic opportunists don't fit any current definition of 'refugee' . Popular opinion (rightly or wrongly) appears to be very much against economic opportunists, and there is every reason to believe most boat people fit that category. Among other issues, there is no reason whatever for genuine cases to avoid getting a proper visa. Whatever, Australians are TOTALLY within their rights to query whether or not we are being had a lend of. The more do-gooders rant and rave, the more suspicious the sheeple become of their motives. I see nothing wrong with the Clive Palmer approach ... would-be immigrants are either legitimate cases or they are not, 'genuine' cases get a visa, everyone else rack off hairy legs.

cont'd ...

My apologies to LEGO for the typo I made of his name.
I was concentrating on the post to Shadow Minister.

Hi Lexi, am sorry, but I am not interested in debating with links. I only have 350 words to counter your arguments and turn you away from the Dark Side.

Lexi, there are 7 billion people on planet Earth, and except for the populations on a score of (mostly European settled) countries, every single one of them could legitimately claim that they are refugees under Australia's ridiculously lax "refugee" laws. Every single human being on planet Earth who lives in a grossly overpopulated, multicultural, fourth world sheethole knows that if he makes it into any western country, he is set for life. And that is why they are coming. They know that we are suckers.

We as a people do have the sovereign right to exclude people from our society who are going to cause us very serious financial and social problems. Those serious social and economic problems are already manifest and are only a portent for things to come. Australians wonder why people like yourself, Julia Gillard, and the misnamed Labor Party care more about foreigners than they do their own people? With the clear example of societal breakdown and insolvency already clearly self evident in Europe, we also wonder why you are so determined to emulate failure and destroy the prosperous and safe society you choose to live in?

You say that all Muslims are not fundamentalists. If they are not fundamentalists, then they are not Muslims. Could you please tell us which major branches of Islam believe in the separation of church and state? Which ones do not believe in Sharia Law? Which ones do not believe that apostates and homosexuals should be put to death. Which ones believe that Islam can be criticised? Which ones believe that a raped woman should not be punished? Which ones believe that Islam should not be spread by Jihad?

Cmon, Lexi. You have to answer those questions to support your false assumption.

You are now claiming that individuals can not be judged by their group associations.

Do you believe in moderate Nazis? How about moderate Ku Klux Klan members?

Lexi,

To the contrary, No one believes the fantasy that you are weaving. All but a small fringe believe that the pacific solution worked.

Dropping the illegal immigration from 4000 p.a. to less than 100 p.a. does not correlate to the 25% drop in refugees worldwide. Similarly, the increase from 100p.a. to todays rate of 40 000 p.a. corresponds only to the removal of the pacific solution.

It takes competent politicians to create competent policy, and idiots to remove it.