o sung wu

Your missive is spot on, except possibly in respect of investigation by ASIO / Federal Police, I'd prefer any prospective migrants to be vetted by the Embassy in Jakarta, far better for legitimate would-be migrants to get a visa & travel via regular airline than risk life and limb on a leaky boat. That works for yankeeland and other countries so whats stopping our clowns from adopting it ??

Here's a link that gives things from another perspective:

http://www.watoday.com.au/comment/asylum-seekers-the-story-that-doesn't-get-told-20130412-2hpcm.html

As the author tells us:

"The vitriol and anger levelled at asylum seekers is astounding.
Putting their lives at risk to come here on a boat that
does not make them lazy, dishonest, welfare cheats or
criminals. It makes them desperate."

More valid points include:

"No one is advocating people smuggling but it is the smuggler
and the corrupt officials in the countries they depart from that
must be targeted. Border security is important but it is
organised crime and drug smugglers who pose the real risk.
Illegally staying in Australia is a problem but under the law
asylum seekers are not illegal. The real illegals are those
who overstay tourist visas and simply never leave, or people
who lie and come in on the wrong visa class, such as people
who come on student visas and work or run businesses."

"Watch "Border Security." These are the real criminals."

"We have no problem accepting British families who migrate here
"for the weather." Or foreign retirees who come to spend the
rest of their days enjoying the Australian "lifestyle."

"But a boat load of desperate people who just want safety,
democracy, first world freedom, education, and a chance
at a better life are demonised like rabid dogs.
Shame, Australia."

Perhaps we do need to see pictures being shown of dead bodies
in the water, of women, children, men, desperate people who
have drowned. Seeing visually the images just might have some
effect on those who so anonymously come up with such
awful anger, and bile, and personal insults,
on public forums such as this one.

As Madeline Albright, the former US Secretary of State,
once warned, (I've adapted her saying here)
"There's a special place in hell for people
who don't help one another."

Lexi

Few if any Australians have issues with 'genuine' refugees, however its clear that the majority are far from convinced boat-people are in fact legitimate. Surely there must be a way to verify their bona-fides without relying on the word of politicians or the snouts which profit from public handouts ?? What do you consider is wrong with the Big Clive proposal to invoke exactly the same 'sorting out' process that has worked well in every other country that has employed the system ?? Surely it must be better to avoid the leaky boat nonsense and let legitimate refugees travel via infinitely safer aircraft. Obviously that excludes Indonesian airlines which have a worse safety record than the boats.

To: LEXI & HASBEEN...

I've noticed a thread that has appeared in this topic, that has been attributed to me, vide my sobriquet of 'o sung wu'. Be it known, all the comments made therein, that have purported to have come from me, are patently wrong !

LEXI, I noticed in a response from you, you'd provided a degree of commiseration and support for some of the comments as stated therein. Thank you for that, but it's wholly undeserved (regrettably).

HASBEEN...I also saw some turgid rhetoric directed at you, for some imagined slight, you've obviously given out apparently ? I believe you're aware of both the colour of my language and my brand of politics by now, and if I had anything to say to you, it would be stated without ambiguity or any equivocation whatsoever. I'm sorry if you believed it had came from me HASBEEN !

Indeed, I apologise to you both.

Hi PRAXIDICE...

Your point is good. I didn't think of that ? My only rider, would any of them at our Embassy be sober enough to make an accurate call ?

From what I've heard from a former Foreign Affairs Security Officer, there's an abundance of spirituous liquor available (free of all duty)at all Aussie Embassies abroad.

I dunno mate, I'm over seventy now, I don't think I'll ever see my country the way it was ? Moreover, I don't think even the Federal Coalition, with all their best endeavours, will manage to halt this invasion. There's just too many of them now ? And it really saddens me.

Part 1
Lexi - with regard to the link you provided.

So 1 story about a genuine refugee does not make the other 43,000 genuine.

The UN said most are economic refugees.

You posted similar rubbish on another thread "How to stop the boats"
Your link
http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/13/inside-australias-waiting-room-why-they-board-boats-in-indonesia/?wpmp-switcher=mobile

The following are all quotes from the link provided by Lexi that prove the refugees are ECONOMIC refugees.