"the Biggest loser", "My kitchen Rules",
Kipp,
Deal I watch occasionally after returning from work. I steer well clear of the asexual shows.
I can hardly ever find a decent program to watch without those mindless commercials.
The ABC has so many promos that by the time the actual program goes to air you've already seen half of it. The SBS is the worst for promos but then it is a mere love child of that incestuous Parent public funded family business outfit called ABC.

Alan what on earth makes you believe your thoughts carry any more weight, when you add a few references? WE all know that birds of a feather flock together, however they have nothing on the lefties of this world.

We get many on here adding references to some left propaganda sheet or another. We know that is all they read, & it looks as if you can be added to this group.

It is the same with those still silly to believe, or perhaps want to believe in the fraud. None of them would ever read anything not in the propaganda rags.

If you want to convince anyone, forget your references to authority, & make your own arguments strong enough to do the job.

Of course you will have to come down to earth, & face a few facts to do that. Your present cloud 9 views will never convince anyone with more than one eye.

The founding charter of the ABC was for it to provide impartial and reputable news coverage. Anyone who watches or listens to ABC news knows that this is a joke.

There has never been any diversity of opinion on the ABC. It has become the Ministry for Propaganda for the Labor party and The Greens. Some ABC supporters have indignantly claimed that this is not so, only to have their position invalidated by other supporters who claim that the left wing bias of the ABC counters the right wing bias of the free press.

Even if the charge that the ABC was a counterpoint to free press bias, it is still a violation of the original founding charter of the ABC, to give reputable and impartial news coverage.

I simply refuse to watch or listen to the ABC anymore (except the BBC World Service) because I got absolutely fed up of the ABC bias. Every time I turned on the ABC TV, there was some reporter crying over Mamdouth Habib, David Hicks, Cornelia Rowe, the "stolen generations" hoax, or boat people.

The rule of thumb if the ABC seems to be, "If it is not in the interests of ordinary Australians, we will support it."

LEGO - Every time I turned on the ABC TV, there was some reporter crying over Mamdouth Habib, David Hicks, Cornelia Rowe, the "stolen generations" hoax, or boat people.

The normal consequence of letting educated idiot do-gooders out of their cages. There may be a case for these stories to be told however the steady stream of hopelessly one-sided sob-stories turned me off as well.

Greetings again,

Thanks for these further observations. Brief responses:

@Praxidice, re: “I understand Murdoch effectively owns the US hard copy press game”

Yes and no. Murdoch has substantial print and TV holdings in the USA. But his influence is much less there than in Australia.

Other American media voices have more credibility and are not tainted by Murdoch’s well-publicised criminal activites.

Plus Americans seem a bit more savvy about how his ‘journalists’ fabricate and distort than Australians seem to be.

For example: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/study-watching-fox-news-actually-makes-you-less-informed-20120524

@Aspley, re “That % is well reflected in the ABC Bias.”

Thanks for that clarification.

Can you point to any issue covered recently by ABC News or Current Affairs which you think reflects inappropriate bias? Say, in the last two years.

@Hasbeen, re: “If you want to convince anyone, forget your references to authority, & make your own arguments strong enough to do the job.”

Agree with this, Hasbeen. My links are not references to authority. They are examples of uncritical acceptance by ABC News and Current Affairs reporters of the sheer economic nonsense of Joe Hockey and the blatant lies from Tony Abbott.

Our concern should not be about Left or Right. But about truth and falsehood. No?

Can you – or anyone else – point to examples of reportage in recent times which reflect acceptance of lies and economic illiteracy from other political parties?

@LEGO, you are doing what Prompete and I suspect others are doing. You claim the ABC “has become the Ministry for Propaganda for the Labor party and The Greens”. But then admit “I simply refuse to watch or listen to the ABC anymore ...”

Are you sure you understand what is actually happening right now? When was the last time you heard bias towards Labor or the Greens? An example, Lego? Four of the five issues you mentioned were about six years ago. And the fifth – boat people – would seem another issue where ABC News and Current Affairs have also been in lock-step with Murdoch’s mendacious media in recent years.

Happy to look at specific instances.

Thanks,

Cheers,

Actually Alan, the vast majority of responses to your article are examples of what is known as confirmation bias. People see what they want to see and seize upon items as "proof" of the allegations and broad generalisations that they insistently make.

That fact that most of the commenters complain about the "left wing bias" of ABC and SBS really says more about where they stand on the political/ideological spectrum than an objective analysis of the content of the program's they are criticising.

To accuse ABC and SBS as left wing is frankly ludicrous. Their perspective on most issues of foreign policy for example simply mimics that of US and UK imperialism. Put them in a Scandanavian context and they would be usually to the right of the centrist and conservative parties there.

A simple illustration of Australia's mind set is that Gillard Is described as being from the "Left" of the Labor Party. Yet the day she was appointed by her colleagues as PM she told the assembled reporters that her three foreign policy objectives were: the American alliance; maintaining the "mission" in Afghanistan; and support for the state of Israel.

Says it all really.