Fungus you are speaking about over 80 years ago. No doubt,and it’s a matter of record , crimes were committed, far more by Arabs than Jews and still are. The Jews didn't kill without justification. The Arabs committed more and far more horrific crimes. Please don’t argue here, my family was in Palestine from 1920. I’ve heard accounts from my grandmother, my father and his siblings, all 7 of them. The family in Israel is still friends with relatives of Arabs they grew up with and they tell the same stories. They also have their version of what happened at Partition
http://www.zionism-israel.com/Hebron_Massacre1929.htm
http://www.zionism-israel.com/Gush_Etzion_Massacre.htm
http://www.zionism-israel.com/his/Hadassah_convoy_Massacre.htm
……and more.

The most recent massacre, 2 years ago, was the Fogel Family in Itamar, who were butchered , stabbed to death whilst sleeping. The Parents and three children aged 11, 4 and a three-month-old Hadas baby. Fortunately the other three children were spending the night with friends.

An uncle , my father never knew, was killed in one such massacre in Tel Aviv in 1922, he was 19.

It is still going on today, just look at what is going on in the ME right now. The streets of West Sydney are ready to explode with this sectarian violence, as is evidenced by a documentary a week ago. It was rapidly pulled, as was a YouTube video. Fortunately it was picked up overseas and was reposted with French title.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtt0ZbCUFEM&feature=player_embedded#!

I will most likely have to wait for my 24hr to be up before I can post more.

SF, yes I know Arabs also committed serious crimes against Jews. But my point was to counter the claim that the Zionists wanted the Palestinian Arabs to stay. If they wanted them to stay, then how does one explain the massacres and rapes?

"The Jews didn't kill without justification."

That is a truly reprehensible comment.

And the Israeli military has been implicated in numerous war crimes since that time. I'm not denying that there have been numerous Palestinian war crimes, but there have also been Israeli ones. Therefore, the bloodletting is not one-sided.

@ Fungus

PLO executive committee member, Zahir Muhsein said 31/March, 1977 with Dutch newspaper, Trouw.
" Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the State of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism.

There have never been Palestinians, neither has there ever been Palestine. It always was a region, named in the first century CE by the Romans, to rid the area of its Jewish Connections. The area was Canaan, Judea and Samaria.

"Palestinian People" were created by the Soviets in 1964 when they created the "PLO". It appeared for the first time in the preamble of the 1964 PLO Charter, drafted in Moscow.

‘Palestinian’ was first used June 4th 1967. Prior to 1967, no one referred to Arabs as "Palestinians". The Middle East conflict was known as the Arab-Israeli Conflict .

All documentation, UN Resolutions etc., is stated as being between Israel and Arabs, not Palestinians.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/747#.UaB05Jz4Ict
http://www.israelifrontline.com/2010/11/when-arabs-became-palestinians.html

** Hamas Minister of Interior and National Security said Palestinians came from Egypt, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia. (Précised)
He said all Palestinians have Arab roots, blood ties in various countries on the Arabian Peninsula and Egypt. Hammad said that half of his family was Egyptian and over thirty large families are Al-Matzri, from Egypt. Half of Gazans came from Egypt; the other half from Saudi Arabia and Yemen. He repeated: “Who are Palestinians? We have many families named Al-Matzri, whose roots are Egyptian. They came from Alexandria, Cairo, Dumietta, the North, from Aswan and Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. We are Arabs. We are Muslims. We are a part of you”.
This is in contrast to the conception that Palestinian Arabs have lived within Israel’s borders from “time immemorial”.**

The link to view Hammad’s comments on MEMRI TV:
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3389.htm

SF, I said before that regardless of how Palestinians may have identified themselves in the past, the truth is that they already had a thriving society in Palestine by the time of the Zionist movement's creation. They are indigenous to the area - as the genetic studies linking them to the ancient Canaanites proves. Whether or not Palestinian identity is a new thing, the Palestinian people are not. They have been there for many centuries. So your post's point is moot. Like I said, if the best you can come up with is to deny the Palestinians' existence, then you have lost the argument.

'The Arabic word "Filastin" ["Palestine"] has been used to refer to the region since the time of the earliest medieval Arab geographers. It appears to have been used as an Arabic adjectival noun in the region since as early as the 7th century CE.[45] The Arabic language newspaper Filasteen (est. 1911), published in Jaffa by Issa and Yusef al-Issa, addressed its readers as "Palestinians".[46]'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people#cite_note-Kishp200-45

Here you go your whole argument is out of the window.

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I am not surprised having a quick glance through it. I noticed a photo of Arafat labelled as a so-called Palestinian. He was from Egypt. It lists Queen Rania of Jordan, she is from Kuwait. Rashid Ismail Khalidi born in New York. Nathalie Handal is English

Everything I check out on that link according to Wikipedia has major issues. I wouldn't use Wikipedia as a source of information. It's not reliable. I can tell you that I am an editor.

The people from "Filastin" were a sea faring nation from somewhere in the Mediterranean or some other sea, but they were not Arabs

Book written in 1695
http://www.think-israel.org/goldreich.palestina.html

From another source "There was always a strong Jewish presence in the land – particularly in and around Jerusalem. In 1854, according to a report in the New York Tribune, Jews constituted two-thirds of the population of that holy city. The source for that statistic? A journalist on assignment in the Middle East that year for the Tribune. His name was Karl Marx.

A travel guide to Palestine and Syria, published in 1906 by Karl Baedeker, illustrates the fact that, even when the Islamic Ottoman Empire ruled the region, the Muslim population in Jerusalem was minimal. The book estimates the total population of the city at 60,000, of whom 7,000 were Muslims, 13,000 were Christians and 40,000 were Jews."
There have been some Arabs in the region going back a thousand or so years, but very few. The land couldn’t sustain them. They started to arrive when the land blossomed under the hands of the Jews.

There is little evidence anywhere in the region that the Arabs had much influence. If there was, there would be archaeological evidence such as there in Spain, to back it up.