Hi Marilyn

As usual you speak more sense than the God-lovin troglodytes who populate this thread.

The book by Tom Segev, to which you refer, is:

"1967: Israel, the War, and the Year that Transformed the Middle East"

which can be purchased from any reputable Capitalist bookstore.

Airmail from Great Britain or Uncle Sam, of course.

Cheers

Pete

what amazes me is how blind people are to the fulfilment of prophecy. Hard to believe that George as a bishop believes the gw fantasy and is ignorant that God oversees history. Make sure you come to the right conclusions with gw George otherwise you won't get a pass for your doctorate. One never seems to ask the obvious question as to why the Palestinian knocked back their own state years back.

Apart from your blatant racism and antisemitism, you aren't very bright either. You have some severe issues that need to be dealt with too.

You are also pathetic beyond words. If you bothered to read reviews of Tom Segev's 'work' you will see it is all imaginary the way he perceives it. In other words it isn't factual. He is merely challenging it.

There is far too much in the written word in Arabic too that the Arabs were asked to stay. Abu Mazen confirmed his family did not have to leave but did so at the behest of the Arab leadership.

Even Norman Finkelstein, another self-hating Jew does not agree with him.

How on earth can you possibly think that Palestinians helped in World Wars? In fact quite the reverse.

In 1941, Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Germany and met with Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Joachim Von Ribbentrop and other Nazi leaders. He wanted to persuade them to extend the Nazis’ anti-Jewish program to the Arab world. He became an ally and formed the Muslim Brotherhood.

Firstly, the name Palestine was INVENTED in Moscow, by Russians in 1964 when they created the Palestinian Liberation Organization, the "PLO". The term "Palestinian People" as a descriptive of Arabs in Palestine appeared for the first time in the preamble of the 1964 PLO Charter, drafted in Moscow.

The Arabs started calling themselves Palestinians on June 4th 1967

There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth.

Tom Segev imagined his book? REally? For heaven's sake not one Israeli ever said it was merely imagined.

Israel could not get Europeans interested in going to Palestine from 1848 onwards so they bribed and bullied arab jews.

And I have zero hate for jews, I just despise Israeli policy.

JayinPhiladelphia,

"Also, I would note that the Jewish people are the one ethnoreligious who have the most solid, indisputable claim to the land of Israel, Palestine, etc etc."

That's ethno-relgious religious chauvinism, "my people are special" and the natives should just disappear. The history of humanity is a record of migrations and invasions, what is so remarkable about the Zionist claim to Palestine. The "solid, indisputable" claim is a fantasy conceived by Zionist anti-Arab bigots.

"Btw, colonies need a motherland. What would the motherland be in this case of alleged 'colonialism,' genius?"

The various countries which supplied Jewish "settlers" -- obviously.

"a handful of them very well may have lived in and on this particular plot of land for generations, they are by no means native, "

How, do you know that as a fact? Remember, the bigotry of religious chauvinism doesn't provide facts. There's often remarkable genetic continuity of populations over millennia, even if the Arabs all arrived in the 7th century the Zionist claim is still ethically bankrupt.

Your comments are as expected, first ad hominem attacks, then explicit racism and relgious chauvinism, however, nowhere was there an ehical defence of Zionism

My last comment was directed at Marilyn.

Marilyn you are delusional. We never actively or otherwise, kept Jews out of Australia ever, never mind your fantasy of decades.

Jews were on the First Fleet and indeed were the first to do many things in this country.

The Hobart Synagogue was built in 1845.

Esther Abrahams came to Australia as a convict on the First Fleet. She later married George Johnston, who was briefly governor of the colony. If you’ve heard of Johnston St in Annandale. That was their estate.

The first Jewish wedding in Australia was in 1832

The first Australian born Governor General Sir Isaac Isaacs was Jewish.

The list is far too long to go into.

The most famous Jew was the best General this country has ever had Sir John Monash

In fact Australia is the ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, other than Israel, to have Jews as its Founding Members.

Learn your own history before mouthing off and making yourself look more ignorant than you already do. I know where I am coming from I have recently been involved in research with USYD on this issue.

As for your assertion that the British and Americans made a deal to keep Jews in Europe during the WW2. That is truly pathetic. They were locked in ghettos and Concentration camps. The Allies and that included Australia were trying to free them.

Your Arab friends could have had a country of their own at any time since 1948, they don’t want it. The last time was 2008 when Olmert meet with Abu Mazan 35 times in an 18 month period and offered more than they were offered in 1948 and he knocked it back too.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/hand-drawn-map-shows-what-olmert-offered-for-peace/