Mac -

The 'chauvinism;' here is all yours, when you ludicrously claimed something so ridiculous that I can't even recall...

Oh wait, let me look it up. Oh, here it is.

You said -

""Say a critic of Israel described the creation of the country as "a colonialist project that resulted in the dispossession and subjugation of the Palestinians""

Your ridiculous claim of 'colonialism' aside, you are the one engaging in chauvinism here.

The only difference between you and me is that I have facts on my side. I'd like to think that matters.

in response to clarification as to who the 'motherland' is in your claim that Israel is a colony, you say -

"The various countries which supplied Jewish "settlers" -- obviously."

This actually proves my point that you have not one clue as to the real situation on the ground, and you only bandy about the 'colonial' charge out of complete ignorance of what such a word means.

Or are you claiming that Israel is a 'colony' of Egypt? Or Iraq? Or Yemen? Or Iran? Or Libya? Or Syria? Or Bahrain? Or Azerbaijan? Or Morocco?

Let's face it. You don't have one clue as to where Jews actually come from, nor do you have any idea what words like 'colonialism' mean, aside from that you clearly think they're pretty cool buzz words to use...

Your comments so far draw an eye roll from me, sir, and nothing else.

Your pathetic flailings elsewhere draw even less. I understand you may be mad at me for pointing out your racism and Judeophobia, but in the end that is ultimately nobody's fault but your own.

In 1938 at the Evian Conference in France Australia stated " as we don't have a racial problem, we are not desirous of importing one"".

I am not delusional, I read a lot of history written by people with open minds and not closed traps.

"The most famous Jew was the best General this country has ever had Sir John Monash"

Just getting up from the floor after laughing so much I fell off my chair!

You have got to be kidding me, Monash was one of the most useless military leaders this country has ever seen. Just like his English peers, he was trained and used military tactics that cost thousands of un-needed and un-necessary deaths (he may of well have gone back to the days of the thin red line the way he wasted his own men's lives).

I am sure Peter Cosgrove would counter your view too, but then again, he is a true leader and probably would not bother to get into this silly little fight.

May well you may be rolling in the aisle like the proverbial Jaffa in thinking that Monash was one of the most useless military leaders this country has ever seen, I would highly recommend you speak with the ANU, as they have a completely different version of history to you. I have just finished reading a précised version of his life story.

"As a general, Monash had the first essential qualities, the capacity to bear great strain and to make quick and clear decisions. His sheer intellect, breadth of grasp, his articulateness especially, together with his forceful personality, induced respect and confidence among his juniors. He worked closely with his staff, extracting the best from them: the partnership with his devoted admirer at corps, Brigadier General (Field Marshal Sir Thomas) Blamey was famous. He developed the practice of conferences of senior officers, not merely to cover a mass of detail, but to facilitate knowledge of what was expected right down the line. He held the view that warfare was essentially a problem in engineering, of mobilizing resources, like the conduct of a large industrial undertaking; in 1918 the men in the line knew that all was right behind them"

To Marilyn Shepherd. You are delusional. Check Wikipedia for the History of Jews in this country. As for a comment of yours a couple of pages back. FYI I have a screen shot of that

Jews are special. Nobody but Jews have the right to turn someone else's land into a homeland for themselves and only for themselves. This right is spelled out and guaranteed in the Bible by God. Until there was an Israel, Jews in every other country were deprived of a homeland. England is no homeland if you are a Jew. Neither is Australia. Neither is America. Or France, or any other country in the world except the one designated a homeland for Jews. Australia is my homeland but it is not a Jew's homeland. My great-great grandfather's homeland was Britain. His Jewish colleagues, friends and neighbours didn't have a homeland.

OK, does this qualify to the racist writers on this list as not being antisemitic?

But of course “Jews are special” is extremely racist hogwash. It is the sort of arrogant drivel peddled by the Zionists - the "special breed". Claiming a racial land promise from God is blasphemous. Britain and Australia and France and America and every other civilised country is homeland for its inhabitants whether Jewish or not. Jews are not special. Neither is any other race. Jews are not entitled to a state designated as a Jewish state. Neither is any other race entitled to a state designated as being for their own genetic stock. This notwithstanding the bullying "how dare you!" coming from the language police pretending to sniff out hidden "antisemitism" in goys who reject their special-status pretensions and "self-hating" in Jews like Finkelstein and Pappe and Sand who rumble them.

The central tenet of the of the Zionist language police like SF and Sam C and the guy in Philadelphia is that rejecting the idea that Jews are a "special race" is "antisemitism" which is embodied in rejecting the idea that there is such a thing as a "special race"

'In response to JayinPhiladelphia:

'Say a critic of Israel described the creation of the country as "a colonialist project that resulted in the dispossession and subjugation of the Palestinians"

'Would that be an anti-Semitic statement? If so,why?"

'Yes, that would be antisemitic. Because for starters, the phrasing of your 'question' clearly indicates that you oppose self-determination for the Jewish people, alone amongst all people in the world.

'This makes you a bigot, sir, whether you'd like to admit it or not.'

Wrong. It is not bigoted to criticise Zionism. Zionism is discriminatory. It favours one particular ethno-religious group over everybody else. To have a nation established to favour one particular ethno-religious group over everybody else is discriminatory. Israel systematically discriminates against its non-Jewish citizens. Contrast Israel with Kazakhstan. I did an assignment about human rights in Kazakhstan at university. Kazakhstan, like other former Soviet republics, is named after the major ethnic group in the area - Kazakhstan for Kazakhs, Armenia for Armenians, Georgia for Georgians, Uzbekistan for Uzbeks, etc. But Kazakhstan is NOT a nation for Kazakhs. It is a nation for Kazakhstanis. Kazakhstan's citizenry includes Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Russians and Uighurs. They are all Kazakhstanis. Just like Australia is a nation for all people who are citizens of Australia.

'Also, I would note that the Jewish people are the one ethnoreligious who have the most solid, indisputable claim to the land of Israel, Palestine, etc etc.

'The Arab colonists who call themselves "Palestinians" have no such similar claim, and though a handful of them very well may have lived in and on this particular plot of land for generations, they are by no means native, and therefore to claim that they are being 'dispossessed,' as a result of their ancestors attempting, and failing, to ethnically cleanse the Jews from our homeland, is, pardon me for saying so, frankly insane.'

Genetic studies show Palestinians are descendants of the original Canaanites, who were there first.

'Btw, colonies need a motherland. What would the motherland be in this case of alleged 'colonialism,' genius?'

Israel was created by the Zionist colonial project.