Anticeptic,the point is that there are far safer alternatives like calcium flouride but our Govts listen to the corporate liars since they have sold off their means of money creation,ie Govt Banks.

Corporatisation of our Govts = a total loss of sovereignity.

>>O yes you will call me a "crazy" but I care not.When you can expand your mind out to see hundreds of meters underground wouldn't you want to keep that ability? or would you rather soak your mind in fluoride and laugh at those that can?<<

How can I possibly top that XD

Dangermouse if that isn't enough to convince you that flouride-phobia is fruit-loopery then all the toxicological studies in the world won't shift you from your entrenched position. I will continue to believe the paid professionals whose job it is to know about this stuff - the toxicologists, medical scientists and so forth - and not the overly-imaginative paranoids with too much free time, an internet connection and an amateur interest in the subject.

I think you're right Antiseptic: best just to give them enough rope and then enjoy the public hanging.

Cheers,

Tony

Here we are sliding away from the subject into a "who knows best". I would be very happy with free sodium fluoride pills for the sheep and leave the forced med.out of our water. The cost to the public purse would be less than a Xmas party. Facts are s.fluoride = poison.Now we all know forums can be fun and many will just bluster for the hell of it, but this is a sad situation watching the IQ fade and teeth in kids get worse. Proven in Tasmania look it up. 50+ years of S.F. and they have the worst teeth in the nation. Now a truth, all you pro fluoride people are just bullies pushing twisted science while big waste producers laugh and use you while they bank the profit. The more you have the smaller your world becomes till hu-mans are nothing more than self replicating robotic slaves. PS I'm not perfect either(but close) Cheers Old Bob

>>Facts are s.fluoride = poison<<

>>All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; only the dose permits something not to be poisonous.<<
- Paracelsus (1493-1541)

Paracelsus figured this one out 500 years ago. What's taking you flouride-phobics so long?

As it so happens all the halides of sodium are poisonous. When was the last time you ate NaCl?

>>50+ years of S.F. and they have the worst teeth in the nation.<<

I think it's interesting to note how Bob summarises sodium flouride - S.F. instead of the more conventional NaF. That tells me straight away that he has no background in chemistry - a chemist would never use S when he means Na because S means Sulfur not Sodium. Trying to do toxicology when you don't understand chemistry is going to be tricky - like trying to do calculus without learning algebra first. And yet for some reason I'm supposed to takes Bob's insane rantings as seriously as the advice of people who are qualified to dispense it? Give me a break.

Cheers,

Tony

I have not yet seen any article in any scientific publication that indicates that fluoridation of water is detrimental to ones health.

"The Humboldt- Del Norte Medical Society Executive Committee has reaffirmed its position in support of water fluoridation as a safe and effective measure. Many other scientifically valid organizations also recognize the importance of water fluoridation, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, American Dental Association, World Health Organization, and American Academy of Pediatrics.

Locally, the following groups have taken a stance in support of community water fluoridation:
California Conservation Corps
Humboldt Child Care Council
Humboldt Del Norte Dental Society
Open Door Health Centers
Six Rivers Dental Hygiene Component
Northcoast Children's Services"

So unless all these organisations are purely there to destroy our children, I will take their advice over some shrill and ill informed activists.

Old Bob, you are being disingenuous in linking fluoride to poor oral health in Tasmania. Tasmania's poor health status (including oral health) has been attributed to the relatively low socio-economic status of the Tasmanian population as a whole.