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Should we force fluoride? : Comments
By Emily McAuliffe, published 18/4/2013Fluoridation is the perfect example of an ethical dilemma, as there are convincing advocates for and against. How do we know who to believe?
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Posted by chemifree, Sunday, 21 April 2013 8:47:01 AM
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I buy in my drinking,cooking water cannot afford whole house filter, shower in this water,little as possible; have sponge baths with bought water. Do you know why? Have you thought about anyone else? If it is only about teeth, how can Dentists medicate us? If it is only about teeth, save the money from buying in this pollutant; create federal Denticare Scheme similar to Medicare and everyone is a winner. I have eczema,psoriasis, burning rashes of my skin, my eyes are affected; also consider that I have to wash my clothes in this poison and they become toxic as well. So too our food chain. Did you know it is illegal to dump into the ocean? It becomes an S9 marine pollutant. SO TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE SO SELFISH THAT YOU ONLY CONSIDER YOURSELVES. I am 70 years of age, we have been fluoridated for 3 years, I have all my own "pearly whites" so yes perhaps it is a matter of don't drink coke, watch the sugar content, clean your teeth regularly. Perhaps some dental hygiene education for those unfortunates who are the target of this heinous act would not go astray. TO Tony,Suesonline& Antiseptic, if you cannot say something that is constructively intelligent, why bother saying anything at all? "SAFE AND EFFECTIVE" - HOW COME I CANNOT TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THOSE WHO MAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MY HEALTH ISSUES? ALSO- WHERE CAN WE OBTAIN DOUBLE BLIND STUDIES OF SIDE EFFECTS TO THOSE AFFECTED SINCE "f" WAS INTRODUCED, TO PINPOINT IF IT IS CAUSED BY THE FLUORIDE OR PERHAPS THE CO-CONTAMINANTS
i.e.,arsenic,cadmium,lead, and other trace metals. QUIT maintained smoking causes cancer? Seek out why? you may be surprised to find the same ingredients are in the FSA in your water! I HAVE NOT RUBBISHED YOU, THEREFORE I DO NOT EXPECT YOU TO NAME CALL OTHERS. SEEK THE INFORMATION, THEN HAVE SOME SYMPATHY AND/OR EMPATHY FOR THE AFFECTED -PLEASE MANDATE THAT GOVERNMENTS ALLOW TESTING. Call me "conspiracy theorist" you are paying me a compliment, as I will know I am getting close to the TRUTH. Edit C Posted by chemifree, Sunday, 21 April 2013 9:05:48 AM
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Whether or not you believe fluoride is good for you is irrelevant. The point is that we do not have freedom of choice here. I for one choose not to take this medication which according to the Australia Drinking Water standards contains hydrofluorosilicic acid laced with arsenic, cadmium and lead. It has cost my husband and I in excess of $10,000 in rainwater tanks, filters and plumbing into our kitchen and bathroom just to have water uncontaminated by poisons, quite bizarre having to do this in a so-called developed country.
I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 5yrs ago and found it is caused by fluoride. According to Thyroid Australia this affects 6-10% of the population so this is by no means insignificant. Once I started to avoid fluoridated water and all products containing it, my TSH hormone level returned to normal and all the symptoms I had of classic fluoride poisoning which were not diagnosed as such - disappeared. I can't eat anything made or manufactured using fluoridated water which is almost everything in Australia and I avoid physical contact with fluoridated water. There are 9 councils in QLD who have opted to discontinue this practice including Cairns and Fraser Island so these are the places we can go for holidays in addition to Europe, Vancouver, Japan, China etc which have long since stopped mass medicating their populations. I have no objections to anyone who believes fluoride is good for you, by all means you should have the right to take as much of it as you like but not one of us should tolerate a gov. that forces medication on anyone, especially when you have no idea how much you have ingested over time. Living in Melbourne but having come from NZ I have had roughly 35yrs exposure to it with unknown dosages. It is no surprise to me that many people in Australia become sick much younger now, thyroid disorders, kidney diseases, chronic fatigue and hormonal cancers. According to our vet, even for our pets one of the common issues as they get older are thyroid issues. Posted by Lesley McMillan, Sunday, 21 April 2013 2:52:33 PM
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From 1982 Former NIH (National Inst. of Health) scientist opposed to fluoride
Statement by James B. Patrick, Ph.D. at the Joint Congressional Committee on Health & Appropriations Against the Inclusion of Fluoridation in the Preventive Health & Health Services Block Grant, Held August 4, 1982. Dr. Patrick earned his B.S. from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology & his M.A. & Ph.D. from Harvard University majoring in chemistry. His experience as Antibiotics Research Scientist was with the National Institute of Health and Lederle Laboratories. Dr. Patrick is Senior Professor & Chairman of the Department of Chemistry, Mary Baldwin College, Stauton, Virginia, 1967 to date. He is author of 28 technical papers & holder of 7 U.S,. patents. "A number of scholarly volumes & numerous technical articles have been written showing the biochemical & toxicological hazards of deliberately exposing the population to continuous dosages of such a potent chronic toxin as fluoride. I cannot summarize them in the time of space at my disposal here, but will confine myself to sketching three points....... For these three reasons, as well as for a number of others that I have not attempted to cover here. I strongly advise against the legislature of this Commonwealth having anything to do with fluoridation. It is a scientific disgrace that a well organized lobby of the American Dental Association ever managed to stampede American legislators into ignoring the highly technical but very cogent objection to fluoridations." Full Document: http://www.nofluoride.com/eight.cfm Medical Toxico-Pathologist - Dr. Vyvyan Howard, President of the International Society of Doctors for the Environment, explains his concerns about water fluoridation. Dr. Howard is a medical toxico-pathologist who specializes in the impact of toxins on fetal & infant health. In this video, Dr. Howard discusses his concerns about fluoride's impact on infant health. Video source: http://www.viddler.com/explore/Sx55s/videos/4/ To learn more, see: http://fluoridealert.org Poisoned Babies - Metropolitan Water District public hearing where Dr Kathleen Thiessen & Dr David Kennedy DDS explain how many people will be injured by their decision to add hydrofluorosilicic acid to the drinking water of 18 million people in Southern California. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DTQlflYHn Posted by Diane Drayton Buckland, Sunday, 21 April 2013 4:13:14 PM
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Posted by Dan Germouse, Sunday, 21 April 2013 4:30:52 PM
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Diane,
Citing persons and publications from the fringe does not take away from the reality that fluoridation of water provides far greater benefits than the anecdotal "problems" that arise. The increased levels of Alzheimer's disease has more to do with the rapidly increasing numbers of people surviving into old age than a "poison" that has enabled them to reach it. I would guess that the same fringe groups that oppose fluoridation oppose vaccination. Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 21 April 2013 5:11:29 PM
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Filters are expensive, the only one which will take out 98% fluoride is a R.O. system, it takes 5 litres to make 1 litre of "F" free drinking water. How can my friend with the child who has cancer afford this the water bill becomes prohibitive. Then there is another friend who has gastric attacks, then another whose kidneys have become impaired. I can name 100's of people I know of who suffer. We have not been fluoridated for very long, the people I mention came to this city to avoid it and now have it forced on them