I love this thread.

I've read the whole lot and found not a whisper about sugar food companies like CSR, Coke etc. and their involvement in causing cavities.

Lets be honest, our sweet western junk food diet has wrecked the mouths of many natives in the pacific region.

I hope people remain asleep to sugar corporations getting away sweet toothed. I'd hate for fluoride to be placed into the actual cavity causing products eaten and drunk by the children we supposedly care so much about.

If we really did care about the children, we would put fluoride in the actual causes' of decay, wouldn't we? No, stick it onto something children hardy ever go near.

We owe Chine $250+ billion. Oi, Julia, help pay off the communist debt we all loving love so much, and get an extra shipment of China's industrial acid waste they themselves don't use in their drinking water.

It will be wonderful having that loving mass acid medication included into Mars and Snickers bars. Every bottle of Coke will have that loving Stalin socialist medication in it as well.

New slogan: 'Throw away that toothpaste - brush with Coke'

Ow this will be great - we'll have wonderful teeth (and brittle bones and lower I.Q's), while helping pay off the national debt at the same time.

Smile Australia.

Report Water Fluoridation Pollution Must End > Download Report:
http://fluorideinformationaustralia.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/report-water-fluoridation-pollution-must-end-diane-drayton-buckland-independent-researcher-14th-january-2013.pdf

Pages 147 -see University of Sydney Ministry of Health Shanti Sivaneswaran - also 148 See in red An Australian Example of Fluoridation Dictatorship - Sydney University prepared by The Australian Fluoridation News - January-March, 2011 - PAGES 5 & 6 very important - you can download the form by clicking on Fluoridation Dictatorship. & the relationship WHO, British Fluoridation Society & School of Public Health & School of Clinical Dentistry pages 149 & 150. Page 151 Brian Martin`s massive corruption, collusion & conflict of interest. Page 152 showing Colgate university of Adelaide.
Page 152 & 153 University of Melbourne funding in 2009 $31.6M - fluoride polluted since 1977 saturation rate 90% Victoria -
note: page 210 The Girl Against Fluoride Ireland
Also shocking Conflicts of Interests Fluoride Promoters, WHO, BFS.
Also note from pages 113 - I make some mention of the dental crisis despite decades of fluoridation particularly the high % saturation; page 116 Kentucky 100% fluoridated - dental crisis.

An Australian Example of Fluoridation Dictatorship
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~fluoride/2011/AFN_2011N1_JanMar_AquaPura.pdf#page=5

Fluoridegate  - The Film
http://youtu.be/zpw5fGt4UvI       

Gee, you got me Tony. I only have a degree in life. clever people humble us country hicks. I retired at 45 so have had 26 years to work things out and have fun. Your type always attack the messenger when you are unable to prove your point. This was fun so will leave you and your ilk sucking up S. fluoride. I have a board meeting to attend so "over and out" Old Bob

Tony Lavis, true to type, you really are a moron. As far as fluoridation is concerned, what difference would it make if what Old Bob is saying is true or not? I have a science education, and I've read quite a lot of the scientific literature relevant to the subject. I also know that fluoridation is not safe from my own experience of skeletal fluorosis and fluoride sensitivity. There are a few opponents of fluoridation who are much further out there than Old Bob, but so what? It makes absolutely no difference to the truth. You mention toxicologists, and there are highly qualified toxicologists who oppose fluoridation. So far I haven't come across a single toxicologist who actively supports fluoridation. The promoters are almost invariably politicians and deluded, or perhaps corrupt, dentists.

It's funny how you lot have the gall to say that fluoridation opponents don't understand dose, when you can't see the problem with dosing everyone indiscriminately and randomly through water supplies, and almost invariably confuse concentration and dose. If the fluoride dose which people in fluoridated areas receive is so unquestionably unproblematic, why was an official recommendation made in the US in 2011 to reduce the maximum nominal fluoride concentration for artificially fluoridated water from 1.2 ppm to 0.7 ppm? And yes, I am aware that fluoride and chloride are both halides, but one important difference is that fluoride accumulates in calcium-rich tissues, whereas chloride does not.

Shadow Minister, if you haven't "seen any article and in any scientific publication that indicates the fluoridation of water is detrimental to ones [sic] health" it's because you are either incompetent, or haven't bothered to look. Considering your failure to distinguish between scientific evidence and political endorsements, it may well be the former.

Candide, you are being disingenuous, because one of the main reasons, if not the primary reason, used to justify fluoridation is that it benefits socio-economically disadvantaged children. Also, the "research" which supposedly shows benefit from fluoridation cherry picks the data, and never properly controls for confounding factors, to mention just a couple of problems.

1. http://cof-cof.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Choi-et-al-Developmental-Fluoride-Neurotoxicity-A-Systematic-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-Environmental-Health-Perspectives-20-Jul-2012.pdf
Here's an article from the peer reviewed journal Environmental Health Perspectives in 2012.
Developmental Fluoride Neurotoxicity: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
"As noted by the NRC committee (NRC 2006), assessments of fluoride safety have relied on incomplete information on potential risks."
"The results suggest that fluoride may be a developmental neurotoxicant that affects brain development at exposures much below those that can cause toxicity in adults"
"potential developmental neurotoxicity of fluoride should be a high research priority"

2. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21237562
Here's an article from the peer reviewed Journal of Hazardous Materials in 2011.
The relationships between low levels of urine fluoride on children's intelligence, dental fluorosis in endemic fluorosis areas in Hulunbuir, Inner Mongolia, China.
"Mean value of fluoride in drinking water was 1.31±1.05 mg/L (range 0.24-2.84). Urine fluoride was inversely associated with IQ in the multiple linear regression model when children's age as a covariate variable was taken into account (P<0.0001). Each increase in 1 mg/L of urine fluoride associated with 0.59-point decrease in IQ (P=0.0226). Meanwhile, there was a dose-response relationship between urine fluoride and dental fluorosis (P<0.0001). In conclusion, our study suggested that low levels of fluoride exposure in drinking water had negative effects on children's intelligence and dental health and confirmed the dose-response relationships between urine fluoride and IQ scores as well as dental fluorosis."

3. http://fluoridealert.tenintenclients.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/mullenix-1995.pdf
Here's an article from the peer reviewed journal Neurotoxicology and Teratology in 1995.
Neurotoxicity of Sodium Fluoride in Rats

4. http://208.109.172.241/health/brain/varner-1998.pdf
Here's an article from the peer reviewed journal Brain Research in 1998.
Chronic administration of aluminium-fluoride or sodium-fluoride to rats in drinking water: alterations in neuronal and cerebrovascular integrity
"chronic administration of AlF3 and NaF in the drinking water of rats resulted in distinct morphological alterations in the brain, including effects on neurons and cerebrovasculature."

5. http://www.fluorideresearch.org/312/files/FJ1998_v31_n2_p059-128.pdf
Here's an article from the peer reviewed journal Fluoride in 1998.
Fluoride-linked Down Syndrome Births and Their Estimated Occurrence Due to Water Fluoridation
"The number of excess DS births due to water fluoridation is estimated to be several thousand cases annually throughout the world."

6. http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v322/n6075/abs/322125a0.html
Here's an article from the peer reviewed journal Nature in 1986.
The mystery of declining tooth decay

7. http://www.fluoridealert.org/uploads/susheela-2005.pdf
Here's an article from the peer reviewed journal Fluoride in 2005.
Excess Fluoride Ingestion and Thyroid Hormone Derangements in Children Living in Delhi, India

8. http://insideclimatenews.org/sites/default/files/assets/2012-03/Endocrine%20Reviews%20article.pdf
Here's an article from the peer reviewed journal Endocrine Reviews in 2012.
Hormones and Endocrine-Disrupting Chemicals: Low-Dose Effects and Nonmonotonic Dose Responses
[Table 3 lists sodium fluoride as a low-dose endocrine disruptor, which inhibits insulin secretion, parathyroid hormone, and thyroid hormone]

9. http://curezone.us/upload/pdf/Fluoride_exposure_in_drinking_water_and_osteosarcoma.pdf
Here's an article from the peer reviewed journal Cancer Causes & Control in 2006.
Age-specific fluoride exposure in drinking water and osteosarcoma (United States).

10. http://files.meetup.com/1755143/Association_of_vascular_fluoride_uptake_with%2031.pdf
Here's an article from the peer reviewed journal Nuclear Medicine Communications in 2012.
Association of vascular fluoride uptake with vascular calcification and coronary artery disease

11. http://www.fluorideresearch.org/194/files/FJ1986_v19_n4_p155-208.pdf#page=38
Here's an article from the peer reviewed New Zealand Medical Journal in 1985.
Repetitive Strain Injury (RSI) and Magnesium and Fluoride Intake