Your last post seems to be directed at me Helen Pringle. It amuses me that people with your trendy lefty mindset seem chronically unable to talk directly and feel the need to beat endlessly around the bush. Why don’t you simply address me by my name?

Personally, I don’t have much respect for the “dignity” of people who have no respect for my dignity, who's loyalties are to a foreign group, and who wish to impose their extraoridnary concepts of what is right and what is wrong behaviour on me.

As a Scottish descendent, I think that you would agree that Scottish identity is so strong that to a Scotsman (Scotsperson?) you are either a Scot, or you are not. I am amazed that you see nothing wrong with Scots defining who they regard as their kith and kin, yet you seem to think that Australians have no right to do the same. I would also point out that Chinese people are noted for their inability to assimilate. Every major, prosperous city in the world has a “Chinatown” where ethnic Chinese stubbornly maintain their particular social identity and cultural values. Have you ever thought of attacking the Chinese for this obvious racism instead of the liberal and fairly innocuous racism of your own people?

I would also point out that the gang rapes of Australian girls is most definitely not off topic on a subject devoted to multiculturalism. Importing rape and terrorism prone immigrant groups is a threat to our people.

Your article seemed to me to present Cooktown as a multicultural paradise which all Australia should emulate. I would reply that isolated, interdependent communities with abundant resources and an acceptance by minorities to abide to the rules of the dominant culture, may indeed have non existent racial tension. But to think that any society can remain peaceful or stable where the differing cultural component groups possess glaring birth rate differentials, and have diametrically opposed views on what constitutes right or wrong behaviour, is dancing with the fairies stuff.

Redneck,
We know the Skaf brothers recently had their long sentences reduced on appeal. This week we had their lawyer say it was because of their "cultural upbringing that led them to view women non-muslim as sex objects" and it was only a matter of time and the right circumstances that would vacilitate their opportunity to rape. In other words they knew no better, it was their Parkistani Muslim cultural attitude that taught them to viewed rape as normal on non-Muslim girls. Therefore their Lawyer argued they should be released from prison, because in their cultural mind it was normal. Their lawyer is agruing that racist sexual attitudes of Parkistani Muslims is normal. Case Closed!

Philo, you could at lest get your facts straight: The case in the Court of Criminal Appeal thsi week did not involve Skaf or anyone assocaited with him. It was over one of 4 Pakistani brothers who operated independently of the group of which Skaf was a member

It was argued that this particular offender, known as MSK, was, because of his Pakistani background, unable to basically differentiate right from wrong when it came to sexual assault and women. It was also claimd, by his father, that he suffered a psychiatric condition. But as a letter in the Herald yesterday stated, any man in Pakistan found guilty of the crimes that this man has been found guilty of would be facing the death penalty.

It would be worthwhile, before making too many more comments on this matter, to wait until we get a chance to read the judge's remarks on sentencing, as I understand that these four brothers will be being sentenced shortl, maybe next week, in reagrd to a later group of trails in whichthey were found guilty.

Philo, you could at lest get your facts straight: The case in the Court of Criminal Appeal thsi week did not involve Skaf or anyone associated with him. It was over one of 4 Pakistani brothers who operated independently of the group of which Skaf was a member

It was argued that this particular offender, known as MSK, was, because of his Pakistani background, unable to basically differentiate right from wrong when it came to sexual assault and women. It was also claimd, by his father, that he suffered a psychiatric condition. But as a letter in the Herald yesterday stated, any man in Pakistan found guilty of the crimes that this man has been found guilty of would be facing the death penalty.

It would be worthwhile, before making too many more comments on this matter, to wait until we get a chance to read the judge's remarks on sentencing, as I understand that these four brothers will be being sentenced shortl, maybe next week, in reagrd to a later group of trails in whichthey were found guilty.

Is Redneck aware of the fact that out of the seven victims of the Bilal Skaf gang rapes, 3 of the victims were from Greek and Italian backgrounds,whilst one of the victims had Aboriginal parentage.

Redneck- you claimed earlier to have sourced articles from the AIC, BOSCAR etc, yet the only thing I have seen came from the AIC which was a report into sexual violence, which had little or nothing to do with gang rapes in Sydney. Do you have any specific, and documented evidence in the form of a report other than a newspaper article which supports your assertion of a gang rape crisis amongst Muslim/Arab Australians in south western Sydney?

If you had in fact bothered reading anything from the AIC for example, you would have found some answers to your questions- such as why ethnicity data is not yet collected in most states, except limited stats in Victoria. I feel that the only reason you yoke crime to ethnicity, and therefore your references to muslim hate rape gangs comes from the media only. Otherwise, whether or not sexual assualts in northern NSW are aggravated or not should not matter- yet consideirng the dominant white population of these areas, you choose to read less into that, than you do of western Sydney.

Sorry if I had put together two cases of Middle Eastern Rape cases upon young non-muslim girls in Sydney. If the cultural line of the later case is to be believed then this is a case for exclusion from Australia of Pakistan Muslim men on cultural grounds.