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White folk memory a case of white false memory : Comments

By Helen Pringle, published 3/10/2005

Helen Pringle argues multiculturalism is deeply rooted in Australia.

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"Finally she sneers at the idea of an Australia largely white and crime free. It was, Helen. But today we look at the bullet swept streets of Sydney which is homew to Muslim race hate rape packs and soon, suicide bombers, and we wonder why we ever allowed people like you to shove this "multiculturalism" nonesence down our throats".

So now you have the evidence to link Muslims to 'hate rape packs' now do you? Despite the the fact that most, if not all the gang rapes were committed by non-muslims. You rely far too much on flowery rhetoric and paranoia more than anything else. Not to mention your now a defacto terrorism expert.
Posted by scooper9, Monday, 3 October 2005 5:46:25 PM
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Speaking from Singapore (till wednesday), as a 'whitey' who is dealing with a number of Chinese from various companies, and also having a knowledge of the chinese 'clans' of Malaysia, it seems that a little more research is needed by some of us, and Helen Pringle included.

The chinese I'm dealing with are very nice, though one woman is a on the border of 'reality' and 'commercial imperative' thinking that just by saying 'I need it today' it will happpen... dream on. But Clans in malaysia are very clanish, FooChows dont have much to do with TeoChews and Hakka's etc.

Helen pringle did a really dumb thing, actually 2 things. She picked an example which suited her purpose rather than reflecting (as Ian pointed out) the CORE. The 2nd dumb thing Helen did was to think we are stupid enough not to notice what she did !

Australia IS British in the English/Scottish/Irish sense, and more recently has included Europeans from wider afield, but it is still statitically predominantly British.

Scooper.. what drugs r u on ? "most if not all gang rapes committed by non muslims" ? get real mate, and read the available information.
The 'racist' gang rapes were committed by Bilal Skaff and gang, who are muslims, thats why they are in jail for a million years.
It may be true to say 'off all gang rapes' most were not comitted by Muslims, but I don't know the figures
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 3 October 2005 7:36:35 PM
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I suggest you take your own advice. Bilal Skaf was Lebanese, and Lebanese people are not Muslims, they are in fact Christian. You've been reading the Daily Telegraph far too much.
Posted by scooper9, Monday, 3 October 2005 7:39:50 PM
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Fraser did not make up his non-egalitarian, racist ideas all by himself. He has come to his beliefs after studying, among other things, the works of people who try to explain human behaviour in evolutionary terms. He refers to the work of a Kevin MacDonald (Professor of Psychology, California State University, Long Beach - a man who claims a background in evolutionary biology and who, in the linked article, discusses Jews in quite a worrisome way) who "explains Western 'cultural' traits as an evolutionary adaptation to the rigours of life in cold, ecologically adverse climates."

So MacDonald is a psychologist. Does this mean his paper on the evolutionary origins of Western 'cultural' traits is scientific? Some would like to think so but in fact it's nothing but speculation; on an academic par with 'just so' stories. The people MacDonald might have interviewed and whose DNA he might have sampled are all long dead and therefore unavailable for study. He had no experimental subjects. He just made up this stuff up and he's clever enough to make it sound plausible. That is not the same as doing science and the sooner we recognise that the better off we, and our children, will be.

All this racist blather reminds me strongly of another person whose views were also conceived and nurtured in a culture bathed in evolutionary ideas, who took those ideas seriously and who took it for granted that the high culture within which he lived was the product of his own people's genetic superiority. Within a few years that person had created the conditions that would show just how deeply into barbarism a people, previously of high culture, could sink. If anything could demonstrate that culture has nothing to do with genes (race) Mr Hitler's experiment in evolutionary ethnic cleansing (eugenics) should have done the job.

And "scooper9", Lebanese people may be Christian or they may be Muslim. Bilal Skaf is a Muslim. His brother's name is Mohammed
Posted by jrm, Monday, 3 October 2005 8:02:24 PM
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scooper9,
It is obvious you have read nothing as you are so misinformed about the Scaf family. They are being supported by the Lebenese Muslim community.
Posted by Philo, Monday, 3 October 2005 8:04:06 PM
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Lebanese come in both Christian and Muslim varieties. The CIA world fact book has the following to say about the religous make-up of Lebanon,

"Muslim 59.7% (Shi'a, Sunni, Druze, Isma'ilite, Alawite or Nusayri), Christian 39% (Maronite Catholic, Melkite Catholic, Armenian Orthodox, Syrian Catholic, Armenian Catholic, Roman Catholic, Protestant), other 1.3%"

(http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/le.html#People)

As for Bilal Skaf, we have the following quote from the SMH,

"Mrs Skaf, 41, who has Muslim and Christian friends, seems at odds with her son's apparent attitude to non-Muslim Australians. Apart from racist jibes at the rape victims, one of whom was called an "Aussie pig" during her ordeal, Skaf was the author of this message, found on the mobile phone seized by police: "When you are feeling down ... bash a Christian or Catholic and lift up."

(http://www.smh.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupPrintArticle.pl?path=/articles/2002/09/07/1031115957991.html)

Not to say muslims have an inclination to gang-rape, just clarifying some obvious misunderstandings.
Posted by HarryC, Monday, 3 October 2005 8:06:54 PM
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