This is ine of the most important posts I've read for ages. It is interesting that most of the female respondents are either dismissive or downright sneering - yet surely it is obvious that the disadvantages endured by most males in our society are what has bred a strong sense of alienation and frustration that find outlet in violence - frequently domestic violence? Every point is well put and important, especially the violence of women to men. OK, not usually physical violence, but the violence of sneering, put downs, complaint that engender feelings of inadequacy that can drive a man crazy. I'd really to see a proper investigation into the causes of domestic violence, and I'd be surprised if the cause wasn't the spouse's endless nagging, complaints, demands and 'put-downs' to which the men have no response, because oi they disagree the woman bursts into tears, tells all her mates, and they tell him what a bastard he is.... and so the psychological pressure builds... but this aggression isn't a crime - isn't even considered a reason for repercussions. Society has become sick, but women refuse to see their part in the problem - it's all the male's fault. Single sex schools and remove boys from female influence by the age of ten is the only answer.

Shockadelic "Does it ever occur to you that White men are at “the top of the pile” because they deserve to be?"

Lol! Are you for real?
I'm thinking that you and Jay of Melbourne should start your own Australian branch of the Ku Klux Klan...

You guys seem to have hijacked this "thirteen reasons it is unlucky to be male" thread into the " A hundred reasons it is lucky we are white males" thread.

I can see there is no use reasoning with such thoughts, so I will see you all on another thread.

Hi Suze,

I wuz going to say that Jay's advice to Shockadelic that he should: "...now get used to being called a racist Naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews" was off beam.

It's more likely he'd be considered "apuerilewesternmanwithdelusionsofgrandeurwhodrivesabrightredV8veryfastaroundcorners."

Poirot “You forgot these....white men also excelled at colonising, exploiting, enslaving and/or otherwise massacring other peoples.”

Right, and the peoples of Africa, the Middle East and Asia never did those things.

Are we forgetting the Ottoman Empire in Eastern Europe, The Moors in Iberia, Genghis Khan/Mongol invasions, Japan in WWII, the perpetual corruption and tribal bloodshed in Africa, Shaka Zulu killing a million other Blacks to build his empire, slavery being virtually universal, etc?

I never claimed White men only ever did "nice" things, but their list of achievements is a thousand times longer than all the others put together.

Suseonline I believe there's already an Australian KKK, and I wouldn't join such an organisation as I'm not a dimwit.
Have I really said or proposed anything *extreme* here?
It is your ridiculously impossible utopian agendas that cannot be “reasoned with”, as they aren't based on anything real.
It is *your* agenda that will result in inevitable bloodshed, as it defies human nature.

Candide “Candide the argument that ethnic immigrants are needed to do any job is complete codswallop.' Given that I argued nothing of the kind,...”

Your statement was about the “crap conditions and pay”, the usual argument presented to explain why “Australians won't do” these jobs (And in Canada “the jobs Canadians won't do”, in Britain “the jobs the British won't do", blah blah blah).
You don't have to use the exact same phrases, the sentiment is the same.
As I said, we *did* do all these jobs once, even with "crap" pay.

Jay Of Melbourne “get used to being called a racist Naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”

I know, many times.
I consider myself to be “anhonestrealistwhoisperpetuallymisrepresentedbygameplayingpeoplewithludicrousagendas”

Ybgirp.
There is no excuse for bashing women, real men don't need to use violence against women because they train themselves to understand the female mind,you're way off target with that post. Since the KKK and other have been spuriously injected into the debate you might like to go and do some reading on what the real men of the South used to do to wife beaters, thrashing them to within an inch of their lives was one of the milder punishments.

Suse, Sooo..you have no real reply to anything the real men say, QED, we win, now go back to your cats, your Tarot cards and your crystals, we're done with you.

Shockadelic,
The KKK, Australia First, Nationalist Alternative etc are a collection of Junkies, criminals, liars,retards and craven omega male types, no real man would want anything to do with them. I've corresponded with some of the old White Nationalists from the U.S and they'll tell you that their "Movement" was completely corrupted and infiltrated with state agents by the late 1950's-early 60's and it was completely destroyed by the late 70's as the activists were jailed or killed by the state. I think we need to make this perfectly clear to the Anti Whites that there is no "White Movement", that the WWI generation were the last full generation of real White Men and Women who were capable of organising on their own behalf, there is no such thing as White unity or explicitly White community bonding.
Most of us don't even know what a real man looks like, the best of us are shadows of generations past, I mean, I'm studying masculinity, men are writing books on how to be a real man, we have to get back what we've lost and re train as men of the West before we can have anything like a 'movement".

Jay,

Might I suggest that a "real man" wouldn't bang on ad infinitum about his supposedly being a real man.

From a female standpoint, it's slightly cringe-worthy to hear a bloke constantly regaling one and all of his masculine credentials.

.....just saying.