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Palestine - semantic skullduggery scuttles sensible solutions : Comments

By David Singer, published 26/6/2012

The People of the Book have been linguistically outsmarted by the successors to the authors of the One Thousand and One Nights.

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#To csteele

You maintain that "the Israel Forum Watch is not an Israeli hate site"

Have you read any of the following articles posted on that site:

“Death Camps” in Gaza: A PR problem.
Gaza, The Final Solution: “Kill Everyone”
40 Years of Occupation: 1967-2007.
1967: "Wasted Victory"?
No Arabs Please, We’re Zionists.
More Zionist Dreams: "to invent some sort of deadl...
They have a dream: “The coming war with Islam”.
Syrian Shelling from the Golan Heights 1949-1967
The Al-Aqsa Mosque
Peace with Syria?

You are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine.

I invite OLO readers to click on the web site and make their own judgements after reading any of these articles.
Posted by david singer, Thursday, 5 July 2012 10:12:57 AM
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David,

No need to seek out sites.

Your articles are enough to make me stand back and shake my head in dismay.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 5 July 2012 10:46:28 AM
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Dear Mr Singer,

In my world referring to someone as shameless, myopic or a fanatic does not come close to calling someone a liar, twice.

I'm not asking for a retraction purely because I had become a little tired of continually dissecting your offerings on this site and have needed a reason, rather than the fact I have been rained off a job, to be more diligent and vigorous in exposing your views for what they are. A goad was needed and you have provided it.

Though I shouldn't over-emphasis the angst I feel, I am far more dark on my own sloppiness than anything that might come from your keyboard.

There is another reason for me to make the time and that is the real sorrow I feel that the Jewish story of survival, the contributions made to social and international justice by some very inspiring Jewish figures, the gifts to the world from Jewish intelligence are all being demeaned and debased by successive Israeli governments and people like yourself.

Jewish people like Antony Loweinstein, Joe Halper, Noam Chomsky, Peter Joseph, Richard Silverstein and a great many others along with organisations such as the Israel Policy Forum are attempting to make a stand and wrench back some of the legacy from history stealers such as yourself.

Cont...
Posted by csteele, Thursday, 5 July 2012 12:43:12 PM
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Cont...

When Yututsu writes “Aren't David Singer's articles ALREADY the worst anti-Israel propaganda one can get?” and “Ordinary Israelis are held hostage by madmen with ideas like this...” one gets a sense of real despair with the actions of your ilk.

I would not be surprised if Michael, the author of the Israel Forum Watch was also Jewish. He was responding to unchallenged comments such as these on the Israeli Forum site;

“The terrorists and their supporters in Gaza definitely deserve to starve to death, but the problem is that Israel cannot sustain images of Palestinians looking like the Jews liberated from the Nazi death camps.”

“"In terms of a plan, Israel should assassinate a high profile Hamas operative, then at his funeral, as thousands of Hamas terrorists gather, drop a dozen or so 1 ton bombs on the crowd of terrorists.. "

“Why arrest anyone? Any horde stupid enough to cross into a sovereign land of another people, during a state of war especially, should be met with violent instant death. Thats what we call an invasion. Shoot them dead. All of them, their sheep and goats. Cover the cadavers, one and all with dog manure and anthrax.”

There are some good people from both sides who are trying to counter this poison and if we can applaud and support their efforts in any way we should try to do so.
Posted by csteele, Thursday, 5 July 2012 12:44:05 PM
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To #csteele

I again ask you:

Why do you continue to refuse to answer these questions I have specifically addressed to you on three occasions following your first post:

"Do you know the term "Palestinians" does not include Jews,non-Arab Christians and any other secular non- Arab citizens?

If you do - how can you object to my use of the term "Palestinian Arabs" to clarify and identify who the "Palestinians" are?"

Answering these two questions will be a far more constructive use of your time and my time than doing everything you can to avoid answering them.

Those pants of yours are still flopping around your ankles. Hitch them up so you can get to your computer and post your answers.
Posted by david singer, Thursday, 5 July 2012 1:05:26 PM
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Dear Mr Singer,

We both know I have addressed those questions in earlier exchanges and when you drag them out it is usually a sign you are again cornered.

But the fact that you are prepared to reintroduce them in a thread titled in part “semantic skullduggery scuttles sensible solutions” shows you have zero appreciation of either irony or hypocrisy.

I have been heartened to hear of UNESCO voting to grant a Palestinian request to place the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem on the World Heritage register. I do note Israel voted against the move.

http://www.unesco.org/new/en/culture/themes/single-view/news/church_of_the_nativity_and_the_pilgrimage_route_in_bethlehem_palestine_inscribed_on_unesco_world_heritage_list_along_with_sites_from_israel_palau_indonesia_and_morocco/

Actually the vote was 13 for, 6 against and 2 abstentions. In your world this is less than the 2/3rds majority required yet no hue and cry from you? Why not? Is the thought of highlighting the fact that government of Israel was objecting to the listing going to get you some blowback?
Posted by csteele, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 10:09:00 PM
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