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Palestine - semantic skullduggery scuttles sensible solutions : Comments

By David Singer, published 26/6/2012

The People of the Book have been linguistically outsmarted by the successors to the authors of the One Thousand and One Nights.

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To csteele

Off on yet another diversionary rant which has nothing to do with my article. Par for the course.

I am still waiting for your answers to the following two questions - which I have now posed to you on at least four occasions:

"Do you know the term "Palestinians" does not include Jews,non-Arab Christians and any other secular non- Arab citizens?

If you do - how can you object to my use of the term "Palestinian Arabs" to clarify and identify who the "Palestinians" are?"

Why the ongoing refusal to answer?

Your response:

"We both know I have addressed those questions in earlier exchanges and when you drag them out it is usually a sign you are again cornered"

Sorry - but I don't know when you addressed these questions - and it is impertinent for you to suggest that I do.

For one who has already been caught with his pants down - you show no sign of reforming your errant ways.

Please let me know where and when you addressed these questions or stand condemned for engaging yet again in deceptive and misleading conduct.
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 11:24:09 PM
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Dear Mr Singer,

No in fact I did address your article by raising yet another instance of you employing admittedly rather fraught semantics to try and claim the UNESCO vote on including the Palestinians was illegal.

Nearly the only support you received was from Palestinian hating types who took the opportunity to vent their spleens. Your stand was not supported legally nor by public opinion yet you did such a great job semantically that you talked yourself into allowing your own online petition to stand even though it, in part, directly contradicted your conceded view.

Possibly semantics allowed you to navigate through that disconnect but you really must tie yourself in knots.

Do you ever give yourself a break from this or do you have visions of yourself as a tireless warrior armed with a pen defending the State by hook or by crook?

This can not be healthy physically or mentally. You really do need to step away and have a look at what you are becoming. Have a break and come back and read your articles. Perhaps you will see as I do a building nastiness and stridency, constantly defending the indefensible. Or at least get one of your non Jewish friends to read a selection and give you an opinion.

It is ultimately soul eating stuff and there is nothing terribly romantic about it.
Posted by csteele, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 12:57:39 AM
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#To csteele

Yet another rant.

For the sixth time - would you care to answer these two questions?

1. "Do you know the term "Palestinians" does not include Jews,non-Arab Christians and any other secular non- Arab citizens?

2. If you do - how can you object to my use of the term "Palestinian Arabs" to clarify and identify who the "Palestinians" are?"

You have proved yourself to be the supreme master at cutting and pasting someone else's thoughts and representing them as your own.

If as you claim - you have answered the above two questions - do some more cutting and pasting - this time of your own previously expressed thoughts.

Why you keep twisting and turning and writing about everything but supplying the answers to the above two questions is really intriguing and in my opinion - childish and stupid.
Posted by david singer, Saturday, 14 July 2012 5:54:18 PM
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Dear Mr Singer,

I thought I had adopted a compassionate tone but you have described it as a rant. It does give me a small inkling what it must be like for the Palestinians with the Israeli Government as bombastic as you.

For the record only and not because I feel any need to justify anything to you I did not directly cut and paste anything nor claim the sequence of events as my own. I quite specificity said here was another timeline.

These were not thoughts but a collection of facts, none of which you disputed and all of which I collaborated from other sources. Any I couldn't such as the killing by settlers of two Palestinians dismantling an illegal Israeli pump I did not include. 

Do you have an issue with any of the facts I presented? If so spit them out.

As to your often repeated questions which we have discussed numerous times in our past exchanges, I have little wish to jump through these hoops yet again. 

In truth we should leave it up to the readers to decide what to make of your pathological refusal to use the word Palestinian alone.

If you feel justified in continuing to do so then you should have no objection to me reminding the readers of this every time you post an article. 

I had become a little lazy on that score but certainly feel a new vigor and commitment.
Posted by csteele, Saturday, 14 July 2012 8:39:57 PM
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To csteele

Please extend your new vigour and commitment to answering the two following questions (now asked of you for the seventh time):

"1. "Do you know the term "Palestinians" does not include Jews,non-Arab Christians and any other secular non- Arab citizens?

2. If you do - how can you object to my use of the term "Palestinian Arabs" to clarify and identify who the "Palestinians" are?"
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 15 July 2012 10:37:16 AM
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My dear Mr Singer,

This is an interesting trade off isn't it.

You are getting your discussion count up and I am getting a platform for exposing you and your ideology for what they are.

The only problem is I doubt very much that any one is listening. We may well be indulging in a version of a Waiting for Godot.

Actually there's a thought, perhaps Pozzo is Israel and Lucky is Palestine. Did you want to do Vladimir?

For the record I have no objection to you personally being a fetishist over the word Palestinian so you really should have no objection to me pointing that out to readers of future articles.

As to semantics the Israeli government would be on a par with your efforts at this dark art.

When the PLO finally recognized the State of Israel and its right to exist many felt some hope that this might herald in an era of peace.

But as soon as they had made that concession the wording changed. The government, which has no stomach for peace, from then on insisted that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a 'Jewish' state.

Why doesn't the world acknowledge how racist this condition really is?
Posted by csteele, Sunday, 15 July 2012 12:16:45 PM
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