David, wrong, another myopic response.

Dayan was hungry for more land to create greater Israel, he was hungry because he was a Zionist, conditioned by centuries of persecution, traumatised by the holocaust, driven by the belief that Gentiles were never to be trusted and, convinced that the world would one day turn against the Jews. In private he told this to a couple of journalists.

When that day came, Israel had to be big enough and secure enough to serve as the refuge of last resort for all the Jews. Israel confined to its pre-1967 borders was not big enough and did not possess sufficient natural resources, water especially.

In a private conversation Dayan was asked: “What you really fear is that a day will come when the major powers will require Israel to be the sacrificial lamb on the altar of political expediency – just as in 1947 and 1948 they required the Palestinians to be the sacrifice on that altar.” Dayan replied, “You could put it like that.” Then, after a long pause, he added, “But we won’t let it happen.” Though he did not say so, he meant, “We have an independent nuclear deterrent and nobody is going to make Israel do what it does not want to do.”

So is there really need to call in the psychologists to explain Dayan’s behaviour, including and especially his truth-telling in conversation with Rami Tal for publication after his death? I think not. If the Syrians “were not a threat to us”, why did he order the IDF to attack them and grab a chunk of their territory – i.e. if not for the sole purpose of completing Zionism’s Greater Israel project?

There was a part of the Dayan that wanted to say out loud: “I created Greater Israel. I delivered on the promise our founding fathers made.” But there was also a part of Zionism’s warlord that knew it would not be a good idea to say so – in case the Greater Israel of his creation turned out to be, as it has, a ghastly mistake.

David, while you are at it, can you respond to this:

What really happened to the USS Liberty, 10 to 1 you don't even know what it was really about and you will continue to spout your rose coloured version of history.....I dare you to give the real version of events.

#To puddle

You state:

"Palestinian Arabs are encouraged to use terms that indicate that Israel is the result of "a racist, colonialist endeavor," and the book instructs Palestinians never to use the name "Israel" alone but instead to use the term "Israeli colonialism."

Sounds good to me."

Care to explain why it sounds good to you?

Do you think it is good that Governments should be officially telling their citizens what terms and phrases they should use? Does this kind of official brainwashing sound good to you?

#To Geoff of Perth

You follow the well trodden path of others before you who are not prepared to discuss or comment on the subject matter of my articles - instead seeking to go off on a tangent of their own or make ad hominem attacks on me personally and usually anonymously.

As I have said on so many occasions - shooting the messenger and ignoring the message is a complete waste of everybody's time.

You are certainly free to follow in their footsteps - but don't expect me to respond.

One little point of advice - it does your credibility no good to cut and paste and plagiarise the work of others and represent it as your own opinion without any acknowledgement.

Both of your lengthy posts contain complete lifts in identical language to that used in Chapter 2 volume 3 of Alan Hart's Book "Zionism - the real enemy of the Jews".

Shame on you for believing you could get away with this outrageous behaviour.

Kids get failed in exams and risk possible expulsion for doing what you did. Adults find themselves embroiled in breach of copyright suits.

On further reflection I will make a point of ensuring that I never reply to any future post by you.

Sorry David you are wrong again.

"Both of your lengthy posts contain complete lifts in identical language to that used in Chapter 2 volume 3 of Alan Hart's Book "Zionism - the real enemy of the Jews"."

I have never read the book that you have highlighted above.

I pulled the material from a range of sources, and yes I did do a lot of cut and paste to put my thoughts across, and they are my reasoned belief of the real 'facts' that are hidden out there if you care to look hard enough.

As to plagerism, I don't think so.

Too bad you still fail to answer the question I posed, I guess it confirms your inability to see the wood from the trees and what is really the truth.

Over to you.

To Geoff of Perth:

You state:
"I pulled the material from a range of sources, and yes I did do a lot of cut and paste to put my thoughts across, and they are my reasoned belief of the real 'facts' that are hidden out there if you care to look hard enough.

As to plagerism, I don't think so"

Your thoughts? Your reasoned belief? No plagiarism?

They are Alan Hart's thoughts and belief - not yours - as just these two comparisons will show.

Geoff of Perth:
".. he was hungry because he was a Zionist, conditioned by centuries of persecution, traumatised by the holocaust, driven by the belief that Gentiles were never to be trusted and, convinced that the world would one day turn against the Jews."

Alan Hart:
"He was hungry because he was a gut-Zionist, conditioned by centuries of persecution, traumatised by the Nazi holocaust, driven by the belief that Gentiles were never to be trusted and, above all, convinced that the world would one day turn against the Jews again."

Geoff of Perth:
"There was a part of the Dayan that wanted to say out loud: “I created Greater Israel. I delivered on the promise our founding fathers made.” But there was also a part of Zionism’s warlord that knew it would not be a good idea to say so – in case the Greater Israel of his creation turned out to be, as it has, a ghastly mistake."

Alan Hart:
"There was a part of the Dayan I knew that wanted to say out loud: “I created Greater Israel. I delivered on the promise our founding fathers made.” But there was also a part of Zionism’s warlord that knew it would not be a good idea to say so – in case the Greater Israel of his creation turned out to be, as it has, a ghastly mistake."

Shucks Geoff of Perth - Can we now tab you as being
1.a liar
2.a plagiarist and
3.the stealer of someone else's views and publicly representing and passing them off as your own?