see how they got nuthin?

nice folks
but decieved..by a bad theory

just like they cant concieve a greater good [god]

hey guys im with you
better no church...than one serving the ignorance

we KNOW*..energy can be created nor destroyed

so here is a link...to what happens next
[ie what the church should be teaching]
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?f=198&t=13287

here is what happend to sir laurence[of arabia]..at his death
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?f=198&t=13286

here is what happend to the 'dead' from the titanic
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?f=198&t=13310

here is a photo
of the greater 'he-aven/he-ll'
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?f=198&t=13311

lets bbe brave
present our kids the full facts

too many lie to them as it is
who to trust[one good grace/mercy]

your inner god
spoil you..spoil god

but its so much better when you see the good..in other
and decide to heck with it..im going to try to love other

OUG,

I can't tell from your posts whether you have tested your hypothesis or not. I am happy to help you navigate the genome database if you are having trouble. You want to use the BLAST tool to align genomic sequences of species from within the same genera as well as from different genera. Are you actually interested in testing your hypothesis or are you just trolling?

you are a genius stezza
clever man...willing to help...lol
willing to HELP me...DISPROVE ya theory..[yerah right]

ANYTHING BUT YOU VALIDATING
YOUR OWN THEORY!

its your theory...!
[im saying its based on a creeping collusive fraud]
name changing as it goes..your so clever..you want me to refute what?

WHAT DO YOU SAY HAPPEND
name the first life
name its 'first evolutiion into new genus

thing is GIVE ME THE LINK TO the prrof..!
of YOUR deluding decieving THEORY!

i had to hunt..read through so much delusion
to your general link

its like me saying here is a wiki
it prooves you dont got fact..so you post random links

BE SPECIFIC
name genus names
and if ya decided thats too hard

explain what evolved..by what mechanism..lol..into a new genus

by your theory..you claim a fish[cold blood]..
evolves into a warm blood mammal...SeE THE JOKE

how many monkies evolved into pre human today
it cant just be one...with the origonal and the CLAIMED evolution[man]..being aparently stable..[except for that one..evolution'..into new genus]...not one intermediate..egsists in any genus/that became new genus

think why you dont name three genus
cause you dont got a clue

you got faith/hope..in a kids theory
put up links to cookies and stockings..
hoping that proves santa clause =evolution

its not
present actual proof of genus 'evolving'..into neo genus
or be revealed to belief in fairy tales..you claim science
use it to present ya proof..

[you got nuthin]
so ask me to refute a thing/process/addebndumb
you know you cant prove][lol cant validate any fact..no new genus=no valid theory..

so ya mate rewrite it as we speak
PRESENT PROOF OF EVOLVING OF GENUS*

clever
but obvious to all

If you are going to repeat your assertions without any proof, I will repeat my posts explaining how you can prove your theory.

1. You agree that evolution occurs, and this results in the change of organisms over time to produce different species and sub-species.

2. You do not believe that the evolutionary mechanism is capable of producing change on the scale of genus.

3. You believe that 'god' 'creates' new genera and that species within this 'created' genus cannot evolve past a certain point due to DNA repair mechanisms at the species level when the species are "too far from the genus mean".

However:

1. Your critique of genetics (DNA repair) and fossil records as evidence for evolution is not compatible with the theory you discuss, as evolution is proposed to occur through the same mechanism at the sub-species, species and genus level. Thus your arguments are contradict your own beliefs.

2. The statement that a supernatural being interferes with the material world is both unnecessary and non-scientific. As this aspect cannot be proven or disproved, then the requirement for this aspect means that the theory remains in the same category as all other creationist beliefs.

3. The mechanism you propose that prevents evolution into species of a different genus suggests that DNA repair mechanisms vary in efficacy in relation to distance from the genus mean. This is a testable hypothesis. First you would have to define what the 'genus mean' is, and how you would measure 'distance'. Then using a simple program such as http://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi you could measure both the variation in the genetic sequence for various genes and well as predict efficacy in DNA repair mechanisms. You can do this yourself from home.

4. You should also state how any species would 'know' the 'genus mean' and their respective distance from it. If this theory is correct then evidence for these measurements would exist in the genome.

You are arguing entirely from a faith position and are intentionally keeping yourself ignorant out of the fear of what you may find out

Stezza/quote..”” If you are going to repeat your assertions without any proof””

Look stezza
Science makes CLAIM*..to science of ‘evolution’
Im saying if you believe..in evolution..PRESENT FIRST GENeUS,
If you HAD PROOF YOU WOULD NAME NAMES

But you got nothing

“” I will repeat my posts””
Lo

“”explaining how you can prove your theory””

My theory is you don’t KNOW*
So redirect attention..but I wont.

“”1. You agree that evolution occurs,””
ONLY AT SPECIES LEVEL”S
Never into new genus,,,[that is YOUR claim..which YOU need prove

Not use trickery..to validate that you cant prove

SPECIES?LEVEL>>evolution..””results in the change of organisms
over time to produce different species* and sub-species*.”””

Lol
IN YOUR OWN WURDS
Lets go ya second lie

“”2. You do not believe that the evolutionary mechanism
is capable of producing change on the scale of genus.””

No that’s true
Reveal the mechanism..that sees a cold blood fish genus
Evolve into a mammal[warmblood]..genus*

“”3. You believe..that 'god' 'creates' new genera
and that species within this 'created' genus cannot evolve past a certain point due to DNA repair mechanisms at the species level when the species are "too far from the genus mean".””

Yes this I agree
So far I give you 2 out of 3

No proof…but im not any authority

I only ASK YOU>>TO PROVE YOUR THEORY.

Reveal your PROOF…
of [evolution..into new genus*]

EVER

science has never witnessed..observed..
nor initiated..any 'change of genus]..ever
thats a thing for you/your theory to prove[not me]

quote..""1.Your critique of genetics..(DNA repair)
and fossil records as evidence for evolution"""

STOP>>
ITS YOU LOT..who say stone is proof
but phenotypical..is no proof of genotype

many ways[geneticly]..to loks like
without needing a specfic mutation[lol..evolution
fossils got no dna..EVOLUTION NEEDS DNA..to verify[the silence indicates..thats not evidenced[no proof]

>>""is not compatible with the theory you discuss""
lol..ITS YOUR LOT presenting it as proof![not me],

""as evolution is proposed to occur,,,through the same mechanism at the sub-species,..species and genus level."""
\
lol[via fossils/dna repair
YOU GOT NO PROOF!

Thus your arguments are evidence of lack of proof
as well as missrepresentation..that..""contradict your own beliefs"".

""2.The statement that..,a supernatural being interferes
with the material world is both unnecessary and non-scientific.""

sure[thats right..you guys got a theory
lol..alians..or acident/chance...lol

""As this aspect cannot be proven or disproved,
then the requirement for this aspect...means that the theory remains in the same category...as all other creationist beliefs"""

says the POT to the KETTLE.
MATE YOUR THE ONE CLAIMING SCIENCE
present it!

""3.The mechanism you propose that prevents evolution..into species of a different genus,suggests that DNA repair mechanisms..*vary in efficacy in relation..to distance from the genus mean.""

yes i got that from darwins finches
in wet weather thin beaks dominate
dry short fat beaks dominate[yet both are genus finch..!

\""This is a testable hypothesis.""

yes i know it is..THATS WHY I PUT IT UP AS ONE OF 7
process..that ensure the genus limitations

please present the means
that alloows change of genus[as evolution prposes[theor-rises]

""First you would have to define..what the 'genus mean' is,""

scientificly..its when they cant breed
praacticly..its that no fertile matings can occur

but mate..genus..is valid
if you say not..you must prove it

""and how you would measure 'distance'.""

the ability
to live/mate/breed
is near..

the rest never*
define the parameters
what genus into which neo genus?