stezza replies..quote..""

her quoting me[i think]
"name the process..and steps"

her eventual reply
:""Already covered in great detail - called evolution""

yet you refuse my reply..""So you refuse to state your alternative theory?""

your reply continues..""Or is this it:""

and then you get confused
to quote your re-quote..of your good self?

"how god done it?"
is written in a book
look it up

but then follows your confusing..""First life: Most likely nucleic acid or similar chemical compound""

to which i would reply
SO you think nucleic acid..TO BE LIFE...?

or ""simular compound""..to be life?

MATE YOUR EXPLAINING NOTHING
which nucleic acid..[ie which rna sequence..

*noting that rna..comes from dna..
processing..WITH-IN A LIVING CELL membrain]

as i tried to explain..first you must know what them big worsds mean
what they imply...nucleic compounds..need first the replictor process
plud dna..into rns..THEN the factory that makes [builds]..the rna into a nucleic acid

AND basic life NEEDS over twenty
to sustyain life process..[pluss the process mexchanism's]

in short even the vague comprehention
of a THEORY..you dont got right

yet you go on in ignorance..
[not naming this first evolution from a named 'first life']

and i love you for that

nucleic acids..""Evolved into: You and I""

still love you

yet then..""Now time to put up.""

ok name the first critter on the evolution tree
and i will explain how god dun it

ditto..I expect you will fail to do this
so I won't hold my breath..well said i agree with your words

First I'll point out your ignorance of the subject:

1. "noting that rna..comes from dna..
processing..WITH-IN A LIVING CELL membrain]"

DNA can be produced from RNA and vice versa. In fact I have done this today, all without any cells being present. I repeat, RNA can self replicate independent of cell membranes.

2. "THEN the factory that makes [builds]..the rna into a nucleic acid"

RNA itself in nucleic acid, that is what the 'NA' part stands for. *forehead slap for extreme ignorance*

3. "SO you think nucleic acid..TO BE LIFE"
Yes I do, although there is no precise definition of what separates the living from the non-living. You probably have trouble with this, with your black and white understanding of the world. If you would like to define life, then I can explain this for you.

Second,

Your alternative explanation:
""how god done it?"
is written in a book
look it up"

So I take it you believe in a literal interpretation of the book of Genesis? If this is the case then tell us. If not then explain what you believe. Come on, tell us. I answered your questions. Stop avoiding mine.

look at it this way stezza
the genesis story..was told simply..to those who could comprehend..the message

if the writers of the bible wrote
dna..or rna..or nucliec acid...
they would simply have been killed off or made to drink the cool aid..

thing is gensis..
preceeds GENE..[sis]
so some credit where credit is due

further the bible begat a beginning
a big bang before science could even concieve an expanding universe
that needs have origonated from a central point

as in god said..!

so yes im fine with in the beginning
god created the heavens and the earth

BECAUSE i know science in white lab coats..didnt
i know the THEORY of evolution didnt..

i know you dont name the first living thing
so lets presume you say the first life was ribolic acid

or whatever

so now

please tell me what it next evolved into

please reveal the slight change...it 'evolved into'

please name which specificly was first..rna...or dna
you sen to regard them as interchangable

so l;et hear your proof

rna joined to other rna..by what means?
that made dna...[please name this dna

in time this dna enterd a cell
where did this cell come from
what rna evolved into a cell

see ol love
its just a dead end

and science refuses to name
THE FIRST LIFE
what 'evolved'

and the 2de evolution by name
[ie one mutation different]

science dont know..!
science has never evolved any species into any other new genus

please correct the wiki

""DNA replication is a biological process""

bio-logical..!

""that occurs..*in all living organisms*

ie in all living things

""and [replication]..copies their DNA;

COPIES
not creates

dna..""is the basis for biological inheritance.""

ie as the bible says
like makes like

fish breed fish
bug breds bug

shep bred sheep
dogs bred dogs

""The process starts""

note..!
not the word began

proces/starts..""with one double-stranded DNA molecule""

so name this first dna..lol life

""and produces two identical copies of the molecule""

two the same[usually]...
this double stranding complicates,,micro evolution
as both often need to be expressed..for a resesive mutation to have expression

""Each strand of the original double-stranded DNA molecule serves as template for the production of the complementary strand, a process referred to as semiconservative replication.""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eukaryotic_DNA_replication
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prokaryotic_DNA_replication

""Cellular proofreading and error toe-checking mechanisms ensure near perfect fidelity for DNA replication.""

""In a cell, DNA replication..DNA polymerase, the enzyme that synthesizes the new DNA by adding nucleotides matched to the template strand, a number of other proteins are associated with the fork and assist in the initiation and continuation of DNA synthesis.

DNA replication can also be performed in vitro (artificially, outside a cell). DNA polymerases, isolated from cells,

*and artificial DNA primers*""

name them

""are used to initiate DNA synthesis
at known sequences in a template molecule.

The polymerase chain reaction (PCR), a common laboratory technique, employs such artificial synthesis in a cyclic manner to amplify a specific target DNA fragment from a pool of DNA.""

read the chart at the bottom of the link
see just what is needed to occure..lol
by accident

your talking nonsense
but i still love you

its hard to find exoplanations
of just how complicted..the accident of life is

to quote..
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22374/

just the sepperation of dna

""In the absence of bound ATP,..both domains are bound to DNA.

The binding of ATP..triggers conformational changes..in the P-loop and adjacent regions..that lead to the closure of the cleft between these two domains.

To achieve this movement,..domain A1 releases the DNA
and slides along the DNA strand,..moving closer to domain B1.

The enzyme then catalyzes the hydrolysis..of ATP
to form ADP and orthophosphate.

On product release,..the cleft between domains A and B..springs open. In this state,however,..domain A1 has a tighter grip on the DNA than does domain B1,..so the DNA is pulled across domain B1..toward domain A1.

The result is the translocation..of the enzyme..along the DNA strand in a manner similar to the way..in which an inchworm moves. In regard to PcrA,..the enzyme translocates in the 3′→ 5′ direction.

When the helicase..encounters a region of double-stranded DNA,..it continues to move along one strand..and displaces the opposite DNA strand as it progresses.

Interactions with specific pockets..on the helicase
help destabilize the DNA duplex,..aided by ATP-induced conformational changes.

Figure 27.17
Helicase Mechanism...

Initially,..both domains A1 and B1..of PcrA bind single-stranded DNA. On binding of ATP,..the cleft between these domains closes..and domain A1 slides along the DNA.

On ATP hydrolysis,..the cleft opens up,
pulling the DNA from domain B1 (more...see)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22374/figure/A3780/?report=objectonly

Helicases constitute a large and diverse class of enzymes...Some of these enzymes move in a 5′ →..3′direction,..whereas others unwind RNA..rather than DNA and participate..in processes such as RNA splicing..and the initiation of mRNA translation.

A comparison of the amino acid sequences..of hundreds of these enzymes..reveals seven regions of striking conservation(Figure 27.18)...Mapping these regions onto the PcrA structure..shows that they line the ATP-binding site..and the cleft between the two domains,

consistent with the notion..that other helicases undergo conformational changes..analogous to those found in PcrA.

However,whereas PcrA..appears to function as a monomer,
other members of the helicase class..function as oligomers

try this link

dna replication mechanisms
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=mboc4.section.754

Stezza and others who are having difficulty understanding where OUG is coming from, have a look at www.creation.com for a complete explanation of their whole interpretation of creation. It is impossible to argue against it, because they absolutely believe that the biblical narrative concerning creation is true. I haven't seen any explanation of how the earth has been populated by all the different ethnic groups, but no doubt there will be some incredulous theory in there somewhere. Their theory on the speed of light and explanation of sedimentary rocks and fossils is a bit incredulous. I suspect that there is a bit of distortion of the facts along the way, but as the old philosopher once said, "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story".

David