Real science is based on concrete evidence, not faith, but if you don't accept the evidence then you have no basis for any argument.

David

Poirot,

"Not the sort of "style" I hold in high regard."

It's endlessly fascinating how one under god has, over the course of his last few posts, accused me of being an insane, scientifically illiterate, alcoholic* - and you have said nothing. At least my attacks on one under god's literacy skills had some basis in reality.

I'd love to know how you justify this double standard. Or do you just not bother? Is abuse in response to comments one doesn't approve of acceptable when one doesn't put it in proper sentences?

"For what it's worth, I enjoy your exacting style, The Acolyte Rizla, we need more quality posters at OLO, and we all lapse occasionally.
I look forward to besting you again in the future : )"

And the small lapses I generally forgive, if indeed I notice them in the first place. It is only the glaring and persistent lapses in the face of polite correction that really irritate me.

I look forward to being bested by you again in future. You generally argue well, even if you are arguing in favour of ridiculous pinko crap :-P.

* Oh, and a woman with penis envy. That I don't mind so much; if one under god thinks that calling somebody a woman constitutes an insult, it says more about his misogyny and lack of maturity than it does about me. And anybody who gives any sort of credence to Freud's crackpot theories is clearly a few quarks short of proton.

The Acolyte Rizla,

I take your point. You're right that OUG's denigration of you is not acceptable or in the spirit of debate. I take it he is reacting to your comments belittling his style and intelligence. Your habit of deriding a poster's level of education is extremely insulting and inflammatory and, therefore, likely to provoke such a response.

You're an intelligent and articulate guy and your posts are well written and illuminating, but your habit of calling people idiots isn't helpful.

stezza wrote/quote..""Writing style and abuse aside,

"OUG, how about you share with us your hypothesis and evidence for evolution/creation etc?""

i have done this often here
but if your interested..in getting near to the truth
you open the play..and name the first life...

then what it evolved into...[its no use my putting up my theory..if your not going to grasp what is being said]

""Does this exist
or do you just have faith?""

life egsists...the only thing NO ONE knows
is how it began..[science says by accident..then evolved by natural selection..[neither could be called science method;..thus evolution is a theory]

""Remember, explanations involving the direct intervention of the supernatural in the physical world are not falsifiable, thus not acceptable.""

sure they too are theories
but we either got a factual basis..[we can explain and name..[and if sciebnce replicate..and name faulsifyables..;..that if refuted refute the theory]

we either have reason..and can name the process..and steps
or we have a belief system..[and kids are being taught theory as science fact]..

if you cant name names..its a belief you got..

""OUG simply fails to rise to the challenge of putting forward his own theory/arguments.""

i have done so many times over the years
you give fact..i give fact

""It is easy to state that you don't believe that others are correct, but then you must state a superior theory.""

yes i agree
NAME NAMES
first life?
first evolution..[what evolved into what]

*If not then you lose any credibility that you have left.*

stezzra to decry..others as ignorant...
one must display inteligence..or reveal their own theo-ry..rests on solid foundations..and the fact you have your faith..in a theory..speaks volumes

so your a BELIEVER..in the science
yet cant reveal it..[you got a faith dear]

you got a belief in a delusion...mainly because you claim belief..
yet cant actually talk inteligently..on the science you claim underpins..what you chose to believe...

thats like some bible basher..not knowing his bible
[and dear heart..there is nothing wrong with faith...be it blind faith in science..or blind faith in god

but there will come that time when your faith gets tested
when your asked to explain..[and sadly thats where the lie of evolution..gets taught..*to children..

who are told..its only cause their dumb..
that they dont get..how,*science done it..lol

when clearly science..didnt do anything
never evolved anything..!

never made life..and has declared..*no faulsifiables..
that if refuted..refute their theory!..that is so pssssweek

but its easy to say..im..with the clever/guys
in black suits and lab coats...and not*..with the guys in dresses

but in your ignorance you insult..who/what..really done it
or made it happen..

in short you chose..the ignorance
your silence displays..and blind faith
in huh?man omnipotance..put you in that hard-place..

what does believing god done it..hurt?

nuthin..if your wrong...[and when you die..you find that dead really means dead..even then you will never know..

yet if we are right..you got eternity..to kick yourself..that you didnt give BACK..that..OF GOD ALONE..back to god

you missed seeing gods-hand..in everything
cant you see how perfect..every living-thing fits in

how pretty they are..
how perfectly they fun-ction
i have learned of our father..by watching the simplest[natural things]

i watch mr robert rabbitbouragh...
with his evolution inspired rant..

and love
the god given beauty..he reveals..even in his ignorance

he will be great..even in the next life
but will allways hold the sadness,that when he taught us of the infinite magnificence..of flora/fauna..he neglected to reveal..the hand..*behind its creation

i feel so sorry..you lot blinded by ascience
miss seeing the for-rest..for the tree

so lets try to reason out...
how god done it?

OUG,

So you refuse to state your alternative theory? Or is this it:

"how god done it?"

First life: Most likely nucleic acid or similar chemical compound

Evolved into: You and I

"name the process..and steps": Already covered in great detail - called evolution

Now time to put up. I expect you will fail to do this so I won't hold my breath.