The climate changes we are seeing now is the result of our actions 30 years ago. That is the timescale that change is taking. No matter what we do now, you will not see the results of that action till 2042. If we act now the severity will not be so severe as in waiting another 10 years. In ten years without action now, action then will be futile. So climate change is guaranteed for the next 30 years, and will become worse even as we decline fossil fuel burning and co2 release.

579 .. or you might be completely wrong

The climate changes, always has, always will (there's a prediction for you) and right now is getting warmer, as it has before and might again, it has been cooler as well ..

Try not to panic ..

I reckon we just adapt to whatever we get, as there is little chance of "controlling" or heaven forbid "reversing" climate change .. what a notion!

Spend the obscene amount of money being spent on this folly on solving real problems, like disease and hunger .. not filling politicians and climate scientists pockets with money

It's a tragedy that the climate science community has hijacked political attention to this and so distracts from things that need investment.

How many billions now have been spent trying to prove AGW and has still been unable to do so, in the face of this, the world's warming seems to be plateauing, and it may cool again soon, then warm again .. do you seriously think we can actually control the heating and cooling?

We don't even understand it and that's obvious, not one of the so called models predicted the plateauing ..

The climate scientists even told us snow would be a thing of the past, then when it started to really snow, told us they predicted that ..

579, something is not quite right, and to me, it has to be our lack of knowledge .. it is the only constant in all this.

Guessing is getting us as far as it does the climate scientists who appear to be guessing then backfilling.

Global warming has mostly been absorbed into sea water, releasing more stored co2. Which in turn is why there is climate exaggeration in places not before known. The denialist campaign is a non response to anything.
You say i may be wrong, well may is not a possative.

""The climate changes, always has, always will .. and right now is getting warmer, as it has before and might again, it has been cooler as well .."
Posted by Amicus, Monday, 7 Nov, 1:50:13pm

Previous warm periods have had close correlation between atmospheric CO2 levels and temp. What has happened in the last century is a relatively low rate of temperature rise considering the 'high *rate* of CO2 rise ... a higher *rate* of temp rise is predicted.

Besides, the fact the climate has changed in the past, and does change, is a separate issue to why it is changing now.

" the climate science community has hijacked political attention to this" = a misrepresentation. Climate change is a significant societal issue - from dinner party to international conference - political and scientific.

Warming increase the "water cycle" - causing more evaporation and more precipitation, but not uniformly.

I see that GW argument is more a matter of faith than understanding complexities!
For those who GAS...the Earth can "warm" for quite some time without surface temperatures rising alarmingly. The energy can go into melting ice, chemical changes such as acidity, and of course the deep ocean.
(All of which are happening according to very strong data). Because the heat circulation has lags, we are still seeing surface temperature effects world wide.
Increasing the "heat" may cause more snow if you are close enough to the poles due to increased water vapour and changes to the equatorial-pole circulation. The acidity changes are very alarming for ocean ecosystems due to the stress it places on organisms that make shells (if Krill start dying we are in *deep*).
BTW. The carbon tax is a bad idea, just another way for the finance industry to put another sucker into the real economy. Just take all fossil fuel subsidies and use it to fund current viable renewable tech and a certain amount of R&D. (private investors will contribute once the playing field is level). After all, name major infrastructure that wasn't subsidised by taxpayers initially. We should definitely stop funding highly profitable dead-end energy solutions!
As for the email "scandal": 6 independent inquiries, all found the scientists innocent of fraud or cherry picking. Terms like "trick" were deliberately made sinister and the implication of cheating was repeated loud and often. Most trades have "tricks", and it is not uncommon to use the term! The "confirmation bias" based on these non-proofs seem to be endlessly repeated, just like WMDs in Iraq, despite any proof to the contrary.

numbers not name said..""...Global warming has mostly been absorbed into sea water,""

no mate..your wrong
yes there is a massive sink of c02..but not heat

the c02 cycle of the deep seas currents..is a 120 year cycle
the spin is were going to get armogeddon..with all that industrial c02 returning soon

by the way...massive ammounts of c02
are absorbed by micro plancton...[and whale poop..is their source of much needed iron..cause with whalke poop..its suspended in fats..[able to be more easilly absorbed near the surface

noting the thinking is to spread iron oxide to capture c02
[i suggest they suspend it in some fattry bucky ball..to help that plan work[if there really is a real problem..which there isnt]

sea""releasing more stored co2.""
not that safely in the mud..on the sea floor
only that in the dep sea currents..[which is smaller than that which went in

""Which in turn is why there is climate exaggeration""

more like dont mention the war
cause we want a fact free zone to put up a new huge tax on breathing

""in places not before known""

""The denialist campaign is a non response to anything.""

WHAT WAS MY LAST POST RETARD?


ozandy..""I see that GW argument is more a matter of faith than understanding complexities!""

your right mate

but lets go to..""chemical changes such as acidity,""

yeah...lol..the moluscs...mate realise..
that the barrier reef is pure calcium
so too the chalky white cliffs of dover

if acid seas..then the limestone melts into the acid water
making it more alcaline...[thus no acidity]

its a self regulating god made mechanism
that invalidates the acidity debait