Robert,
An example would be the number of people publicly congratulating a certain lesbian couple recently when one got pregnant. Basically they were congratulating a child being conceived in a test tube, (which is a very worrying thing if you do some research as to where IVF is heading).

However, I have heard of no one congratulating a heterosexual politician if his wife became pregnant naturally.

We now live in a highly feminist, anti-male, and increasingly anti-heterosexual society.

"We now live in a highly feminist, anti-male, and increasingly anti-heterosexual society."

What a load of rubbish. Anti male, if anything, this time period is the fairest its been, some may disagree, however its only my opinion.

"A dad does matter to a child, whether gay couples like it or not"

The answer has already been told. With-in the social structures of this well oiled human-machine, as the child grows into it, he or she picks a path of their own choices and will experiment given to their own time and nothing/no-one is pressuring anybody in thinking anything that nature hasn't all ready given to each and every individual, and that's the way it is.

If god made all, well you religious people, when you pass on, can front him about the so-called perfect world, which is full of mistakes that some ignorant believers seem to have a problem with.

The perfect creator....of all.....yeah right:)

The big picture is........your god made everything, and when you get the chance to ask him, can you please come back and tell the rest of us what the hell when wrong.

Like I always say, have a nice day:)

Cactus.

So, when two homosexual men adopt,

The child can benefit from having *two* dads.

Then again, children throughout history have benefited from having loving, caring and responsible widowed parents, aunts and Uncles, grandparents, godparents, step parents, step-step-parents, adopted parents, foster parents, avuncular family friends and *any number* of people whose relationship to natural parents is tenuous, dubious, "questionable", purely or "merely" legal, and the child has a broader and occasionally more robust view of reality.

enforcing "optimality" is often indulged in by those with a viciously narrow definition of "optimal".

Rusty

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12541#216883

Rusty Catheter, i answered that rubbish of yours earlier, in the olden days parental death was roughly 50/50 male/female, widows were encouraged to cry on each others shoulders, socialise with each other, marry each other.

"Repeat the lie until it becomes the truth" Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12541#216878

Cactus, what is so good about the gospels acording to Trotsky, Marx, Lenin & Mao? why are you so pure for deifying lucifer, satan & beelzebub?

like your heroes say "polymorphous perversity".

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12541#216872

RObert, i have never seen vanna or any other member of the AFL.

Anti
FeMANazi/FauxMANista
League

Make any derogatory comments about ALL women ever, we have made derogatory comments as you also have, about radical, extreme, femanazis.

http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm read all of it but pay particular attention to #26 & #40.

if a teenager is vilified for making a mistake &/or committing a crime, should we punish the vilifier or the "fagin" character who deliberately corrupted the child with filth & perversion &/or trained it to fail &/or led it astray.

In reality, there is a Church in Australia that "marries" gay and lesbian people.

It is Australia's first independently registered denomination.

For legal reasons, it is a ceremony that is called the "Covenant of Love" and obviously is not recognised by the State as a "legal marriage" however, from a Spiritual (whatever that means) and religious perspective, it most certainly is.

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They are known to me personally and were very caring and compassionate of me during a dark period of my life, but even though they are a type of "Christian" they are so very different from mainstream Christianity that they really deserve to be considered entirely differently i.m.o.

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Blanche Dalpuget, Bob Hawkes current partner I believe, used to be a member of their Church.

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My biological father is a psychologically abusive individual and suffice to say he is lucky to still draw breath. In fact, whilst I will spare readers the details, the only reason that he does is because I love my wife and daughter more than I despise him.

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Still, revenge indeed is a dish best served cold. HaHa ;-)

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Of course, as for *Philo* the frothing at the mouth fanatic, like some of the other bible bashing fruit cakes in this place who are obsessed with getting their own way and inflicting it upon vulnerable others regardless of the consequences, if he came calling to steal my child on the basis that like the Stolen Generations and UnWed mothers, I am unworthy in the eyes of their pathetic god concept to be a parent, well ...

as said, the rules are such as to limit the fullness of my expression.

;-)

Snag

Cactus, what is so good about the gospels according to Trotsky, Marx, Lenin & Mao? why are you so pure for deifying Lucifer, Satan & Beelzebub?

like your heroes say "polymorphous perversity". Well for starters none of them are my heroes, however I did find out what "polymorphous perversity" is and I fail to the connection. Maybe you could explain in a little more detail.

However I did find out that Fraud made had his own definition. My own sexuality if that's what your interested in, sorry to disappoint you if your gay, but Iam just the run of the mill heterosexual:) and father of four children:) I hope its not disappointing for you...lol
In order to understand the shift that Dawson foresaw and that ultimately took place, it is necessary to look back to 1909, when Sigmund Freud released his understanding of human sexuality. Trying to understand something as powerful as sex, Freud turned to what he called the “infantile” stage of human development, and identified the leading characteristic of infantile sexuality as polymorphous perversity.

Freud explained: “What makes an infant characteristically different from every other stage of human life is that the child is polymorphously perverse, is ready to demonstrate any kind of sexual behavior, with any kind of pleasure, without any kind of restraint.” He then explained how “civilization” emerges only after this innate, polymorphous perversity is restrained by psychological repression, social form, and custom.

Such restraint, Freud felt, was inevitable and indeed necessary, for procreation is necessary for the continuation of the race, and therefore heterosexual coupling was absolutely essential for civilization itself. So the world with same sex couples still I think, wont make any difference at all.

My sister on the other hand is very much gay and proud of it, and like most normal people Mr Snag, its only embittered small-minded twats that cry "Oh dear, we cant have that"

Like I always say, have a nice:)

Cactus: