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Looting in London: the end of the social contract : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 11/8/2011

Why is it that the same areas always erupt first, whatever the cause? Tariq Ali,London Review Books, August 9, 2011

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There appears to be little point in publishing thoughtful, carefully expressed articles on this topic. No matter how reasoned, no matter how patiently and empathetically phrased, the only reaction to them that we can expect with confidence, is the mindless reflection of individual prejudice - even occasionally, bigotry.

>>Poor societies in the UK are... the result of societies accepting feminist policies that marriage is oppressive<<

>>There have been an average of two deaths in police custody per month fgor the last 11 years, yet not a single police officer has been convicted as a result. Then there all the outside police custody which take an inordinate amount of time to be resolved... minority groups are subject to constant Police harassment.<<

>>RICH kids...with the same attitudes get off scott free and buy a new porche..with the next bonus/bailout and the poor get pilloried<<

>> If you bring in large numbers of people from the third world, you will become third world. It's too late now for the Brits and the French and the rest of Europe which have large numbers of minority tribes- people living in ghettoes of poverty and crime.To appease all ethnicities Europe's national identities had been eroded and will never be regained.<<

And that's just on page 1.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 11 August 2011 11:42:17 AM
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Amicus, you just can't help yourself can you. The IPCC report established that the bullet found in the police radio was identical to that issued to the police, and only to the Police. The IPCC also established that the police lied about Mark Duggan shooting at them. He was not even armed. The irresistible inference is that the police fired one of their own bullets into the police radio to provide a cover story to excuse their execution of Mr Duggan.
But then, inferences drawn from facts was never your strong point anyway. Someone who uses the 'grassy knoll' as a term of derision merely demonstrates their complete and utter ignorance of the facts (found for example in the 12 volume ARRB report) and a shameless desire to protect the real culprits at whatever cost.
Posted by James O'Neill, Thursday, 11 August 2011 11:53:59 AM
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Pericles, you quote part of my first comment on deaths in and out of police custody. What part of that is "individual prejudice or bigotry"? I suggest it is a fact that needs to be taken into account to understand why disadvantaged groups riot. There are plenty of historical precedents as even a passing acquaintance with, for example, the civil rights movement in the US would attest.
Posted by James O'Neill, Thursday, 11 August 2011 11:58:54 AM
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The UK has had 30 - 40 riots of differing scales since 1700. The Riot Act was enacted in 1714. Us Poms know how to riot.

There is no excuse for rioting and causing death and damage, but the causes of these riots are, according to some media, and often in letters pages, immigration and mutlicutluralism. What rot. What bigoted rubbish.

The causes of riots almost always stem from poverty, unemployment, and general disenfranchisement and powerlessness. This is the breeding ground for rabble-rousing and thuggery.
Posted by Phil Matimein, Thursday, 11 August 2011 12:06:34 PM
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GrahamY, Whoa!- that ought to convince me - Just kidding...You quote one isolated case as opposed to thousands of acts of violence by these migrants in every city in Europe every single day. In France alone there are 751 no-go areas, the so-called zones urbaines sensibles (ZUS, sensitive urban areas), where 5 million people - 8 percent of the population - live. These are areas where police, emergency or any government vehicles will not enter because they will be fire bombed. People get mugged, even murdered, in the ZUS. On an average night in France 300 vehicles will be torched but the media prefer not to write about it. In France Muslims are 6% of the population. They also make up 70% of the prison population.
And this GrahamY, is just France. Give me a break from your rainbow "all cultures re equal world' and understand this is how it is in the real world and every year it will get worse.

Jens Orback, Democracy Minister (!) in the Swedish government, said during a radio debate: "We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us. "If that doesn't send a chill up the spine of any rational thinking freedom loving westerner, then I don’t know what will.
Posted by kman, Thursday, 11 August 2011 12:48:49 PM
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"There appears to be little point in publishing thoughtful, carefully expressed articles on this topic. No matter how reasoned, no matter how patiently and empathetically phrased, the only reaction to them that we can expect with confidence, is the mindless reflection of individual prejudice - even occasionally, bigotry."... Pericles.

That's what you have to love about the left.Theirs is the only opinion
that's right because "It's patiently and empathetically phrased" and so the subject should never be discussed.

Aside from the point that what I wrote were facts as can be ascertained through Google,I wonder at just how far you can bury your head in the sand and actually believe that these things are not happening in the real world.
Oh and check out the piece from the lefty NY Times "The Dark side of Paradise"...Then again maybe you had better not because it will scare the hell out of you multicultural dreamers.
Posted by kman, Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:20:38 PM
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