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Looting in London: the end of the social contract : Comments
By Binoy Kampmark, published 11/8/2011Why is it that the same areas always erupt first, whatever the cause? Tariq Ali,London Review Books, August 9, 2011
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Posted by vanna, Thursday, 11 August 2011 9:33:21 AM
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The dangers of premature speculation are evident from the report of the Police Integrity commission which shows that the bullet that was fired and hit the police officer's radio came from another Police firearm. Initial media reports were strongly suggesting the man the Police shot dead was the original culprit. Don't expect any serious investigation leading to the shooter being held culpable. There have been an average of two deaths in police custody per month fgor the last 11 years, yet not a single police officer has been convicted as a result. Then there all the outside police custody which take an inordinate amount of time to be resolved. Blair Peach is a classic but by no means isolated example.
Tariq Ali is right to point to the geographical similarities. They are also the areas where minority groups are subject to constant Police harassment. There is an enlightening discussion on Democracy Now of 10 August that people should listen to. It reflects the anger and the rage of the perpetually disadvantaged. Focusing on the mindless yobs who capitalise on these situations is only another way of avoiding addressing the real issues. Posted by James O'Neill, Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:05:55 AM
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""where unhappiness is the permanent condition,
riots are perhaps not that surprising."" nor is the easy response if you do the crime..you do the time EXCEPT IF YOUR IN THE IN CROWD of children dealing in bank theft bonds and bailouts ITS THE SAME KIDS doing the same childish things BUT one lot of em got clever lawyers the others got the dole live in a hole yes pri-minester camera/on beat up the poor..stealing socks jocks and reebocks but the thieves stealing values should be in the stocks not selling stock getting..govt bailout..! when they fail[fall]..cause of greed or get the dole where better for govt money? the dole is HEAPS cheaper..! ""The commentary on the death of Mark Duggan remains sporadic."" yes he didnt shoot he got shot and the shooters [policing petty policy] not wholsale colluded white collar crime say he shot first[they hate kids]..but not all kids ie the RICH kids...with the same attitudes get off scott free and buy a new porche..with the next bonus/bailout and the poor get pilloried..in the 6 page spread while..the rich prepare for their next bailout great mate ""This,he argues, is 'anger at the breakdown of an implicit social contract'."" blimey..send them to the colonies how dare they complain oh and lets bailout our mates pip pip and all that ol school tie stuff nuff said let the capitalists sort it out this time or send the 16,000 cops to wall and fleet street police real crime.. if only they preserve the crime scene in time well done cobber who will the bobbies clobber? Posted by one under god, Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:14:49 AM
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"The dangers of premature speculation are evident from the report of the Police Integrity commission which shows that the bullet that was fired and hit the police officer's radio came from another Police firearm."
Another danger of premature speculation is asserting the bullet was fired by the police .. at the moment it is only established the round was the SAME CALIBER as police issue. It is not know which gun fired it or whether the suspect had a similar firearm .. (maybe there was a 3rd shooter! Did anyone check the grassy knoll?) sheesh! Posted by Amicus, Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:51:45 AM
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Australia needs to learn from these events. If you bring in large numbers of people from the third world, you will become third world. It's too late now for the Brits and the French and the rest of Europe which have large numbers of minority tribes- people living in ghettoes of poverty and crime.To appease all ethnicities Europe's national identities had been eroded and will never be regained.
These minorities have huge families, all collecting generous welfare payments generation after generation, and with absolutely no chance of ever intergrating with their hosts.Most major cities in Europe will have Muslim majority populations within the next 25 years. Look at our cities now - the events in Britain need to warn us loud and clear, that we cannot let the Greens who want to let anyone who can get here stay permanently,ever influence our immigration policies. Posted by kman, Thursday, 11 August 2011 11:17:12 AM
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That's way too simplistic kman. Read this article about a muslim father who lost his son who was run-over by a looter while he was trying to defend his neighbourhood.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-11/father-too-late-to-save-dying-son-in-uk-riots/2834124 I reckon there'd be plenty of white anglo males who would react with far less dignity and humanity than this father. Posted by GrahamY, Thursday, 11 August 2011 11:31:07 AM
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Such children normally grow up in poverty, and would find it difficult to escape poverty, as they would have minimal education and minimal skills to offer employers.
Poor societies in the UK are not necessarily the result of government decisions, war, globalisation etc, but the result of societies accepting feminist policies that marriage is oppressive, and children should be raised by the mother without the father.
If someone wants to see the end results of feminism, take a walk through the streets of Peckham, Ladbroke Grove, Ealing, Catford, Bethnal Green, Chalk Farm, East Dulwich, Lewisham, Clapham, Croydon etc.