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Christianity for Atheists : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 28/7/2011

Christian physicists, no matter how devout and sincere, do not make good theologians or evangelists.

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Yuyutsu:"The fact that people have weaknesses and are looking for meaning and explanations, has nothing to do with God."

Actually, it has everything to do with God.

I did not mention 'explanation of material issues', in fact if anything God is supposed to put meaning to everything, material and non-material. Your whole life and existence in fact, not what just how you ate for breakfast.

God doesn't make sense, but is supposed to make everything else make sense?

Yep, that about sums it up.
Posted by Bugsy, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 10:32:28 AM
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Okay, Yuyutsu, i can't resist.
You have a penchant for reasoning (although at the same time you deny the use of "your mind") yourself around in circles, so often cancelling out you explanation of God.

Previously you've said that we are God - and yet you say that striving to be closer to God is what it's all about. Believe it or not, most people don't think God is a thing....more likely they think God is a concept. However, in the past you have denied that God can be anything - even a concept, because concepts are constructions of the mind.

Can you explain how religion is a vehicle for "bringing us closer to God" if 1) we already are God and 2) we are capable of moving closer to something that doesn't exist?...or perhaps you mean becoming more "aware" of God. But then again "awareness", either spiritual or intellectual is a function of mind.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 10:35:53 AM
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so tell me
do you 'believe' in the theory of evolution
do you believe in economic theory

god is with us
its all so many theories
but note how free we are to believe as we chose

purerot said...quote..""because concepts
are constructions of the mind...""

[sorry thats from the jinn
giving me this reply]

yes concepts
but god is more than a con-cept

sure religeons reflect the worser face
of the good inherant of god

[yet they claim to hold the high ground...much like demons claiming to own heaven]

materialism..confounds a scientific cause
thus we are free..to believe as we wish
this cant change..*the prime cause

think of god as the first action
that then caused the reactions..we now think to be real

can in fact prove real...
but that first cause[spark]..of the big bang
was real..and..made reality..[and the holy texts said that
long before science thunk it..[with a big bang]

""Can you explain..how religion is a vehicle
for "bringing us closer to God"..if 1.. we already are God""

we have god within us
we are thus..the cause within us
sustaining us our lives..is real too

you cant exclude the means..that life lives
from the life living...its gift
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:10:49 AM
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im not god
your clearly not god
how can an adjective become a noun

[think of subjective
rather than objective]

""and 2)..we are capable of moving closer
to something that doesn't exist?""

if i have my tghumb in your mouth
can it get any closer...move me any closer to your 'mouth'

emmanuel..[god with us]
WAS TO BE THE MESSIAHS NAME
yet he is called jesus...because he came to reveal the good within us all...jesu wasnt god...but to look at him..you could see the good works god does for us all

""...or perhaps you mean becoming more "aware" of God.""

if we sit in meditation
we soon find the good within
think of you/me..as prisons..holding that we feel most precious...deeply within us all..[god aint going no where]

""But then again "awareness",
either spiritual or intellectual is a function of mind.""

there is another point
the brain...is not the mind
the mind isnt about function..but dicerning/judging/learning
that are process...not fun-ction..

the function of the brain is to enlighten our mind..[enlighten-men/t..isnt a function neither]..

its a present..[a gift]
the gift

without which no life could live

thats it for the present
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:12:56 AM
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Dear Bugsy,

I know you did not mention "explanation", but I combined my answer to you with my answer to Ammonite, who mentioned it.

God is not there to feed your addiction for having meaning and making sense.

Dear Poirot,

Of course you are God, there is nothing but God, but your mind is in the way of you experiencing God directly. You do experience God every moment, but you normally experience Him via certain veils, such as your mind and your senses. What is needed in order to experience God directly is not an addition, but a subtraction, and that what's religion is meant to do. Religious practices loosens your attachment to the world, thereby you are "mind"ing less and less about it. Once you no longer mind, once over your addiction to experience via the mind, then you Are.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 1:29:27 PM
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Yuyutsu:"God is not there to feed your addiction for having meaning and making sense."

Of course it isn't. I don't have that addiction, the religious people do.

God is supposed to explain everything and give people meaning to their lives. Have you not been listening to the preachers?
Posted by Bugsy, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 1:54:36 PM
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