@morganzola:

LOL, of course Indonesia will just buy cattle from someone else. That is what I've been telling you all along. Your abscence of concern or care about the welfare of Australian farmers also confirms what I've been saying all along as well.

@lilasuka:

Interesting, if you say cattles are equal to Negro slaves, then you are saying Australians have been eating Negro slaves. In other words, you are accusing Australians of cannibalism? LOL

@Liz45:

LOL, taking us for granted, are you? As far as I can see, there is no shortage of beef in Indonesia these days. As I said, we produce 70% of our beef domestically, while the remaining are now imported from New Zealand, USA, South America, etc. The cost of imported beef might increase, but they are being consumed by the middle-class and wealthy Indonesians who can afford it. The less-prosperous Indonesians have been eating domestic beef all along, so this Oz cattle ruckus does not influence them.

There are similarities between the life export for slaughter and the trans Atlantic Slave trade. Not that Negro slaves and cows are the same. But the attitude of a few that cattle were bred to be slaughtered so why worry about how they are killed is the same as the attitude in 1860 of Southern USA farmers. For them Negros were bred to be slaves and therefore had no rights and no one should worry about them being worked to death. I have just used this example to show that we can not justify cruelty or taking the rights away from any living entity on the grounds of what someone desired to breed them for. Fortunately, I think most understand this point.

As far as cannibalism is concerned eating the cow is even worse. She gives us her milk for our whole life. So she is our Mother in this regard even more than the mother we took birth from that only gives us milk for one or two years. Cannibals generally never kill their own Mother and eat her. Anyway, this is a higher level of consciousness and understanding that will not be comprehended by someone that is still eating the cow. Do some research into why the cow is considered sacred and never killed in some cultures plus give up living on the flesh, blood and suffering of the cow. Then it becomes possible to understand these higher topics.

But the violence and suffering involved in the life animal for slaughter trade is repulsive even for those who are not able to see the cow as one of our mothers. From a country boy and a cattle owner.

@lilasuka

"simply tax meat..." Obviously written by someone completely removed from the practicalities of life - tax isnt simple and administering it is an incredible waste of money. And as far as the cow being our Mother?? What about all those lactose intolerant people haha? Seriously? Dairy cows make crap eating (given that one branch of the family operate a dairy I can say that from experience). Meat cattle make crap milking. That's why we have dairy breeds and beef breeds. And then we have the breeds that we export to other countries because they are suited to our tropical north, and Australians wont eat them (except at Macca's) - about as tough and tasteless as a Fresian.

@ Diver Dan. Yes, I know - completely agree. Bowing to public pressure just annoys the hell out of me. Wont bow to public pressure about not having a carbon tax through... makes you wonder who is really setting the policy agenda.